Good point. Are the new bikes "true dual" compatible? Sure would look good on that Heritage and allow for larger saddle bags. Those stock pipes stacked on top of each other look like crap imho.

 

You were likely not a potential buyer anyway so it does it matter.

Oh, and this has become my standard reply to these types of threads.

 

Prot - all I can say is that I was seriously considering a new bike.....very much! I might still within a year or so? I waited on the Heritage & was/am disappointed.

If & when the aftermarket provides some much needed solutions (if it wont void a warranty) I might be in the market, I have 2 Heritage softails in the garage now - along with a muscle car in restoration mode - so time will tell but this current offering I passed on it & passed proudly with what I got!

 

Hey OP you should have stopped at opinions are like ********. Nobody gives two ***** about yours.

 

In MY younger days when I bought my first Harley, they were owned by AMF.
That didn't make such a great tradition.

 

I Don't want to ride them till they are worn out, that's called disposable, like all new cars and trucks, out today, disposable garbage, built to last about 5-7 years, that's it. I want my bikes to last generations, so they will be around long after I'm bug food.

 

If you think a bike “back in old days” rides better than a 2018 Softtail, you’ve not ridden a 2018. My Fatbob is, by far, the best riding HD product I’ve ever ridden/owned going back over 20 years.

 

Krouke, I know how you feel, but similar to some others here, for me it happened in '99-'00 when the 80" Evo was retired. AMF had its issues but it gave us that motor. The Twin Cam has always been just an echo of a past era I missed. I like my '09 Dyna for what it is and it's not going anywhere ever, but the M8 reminds me much more of my FXR in every good way there is. I feel like we just came out of a 17 year manufacturing holding pattern just treading water trying not to lose the past, but not able to recreate it either. You hold on to your '16 and I'll do the same with my '92 and we'll both have our happy place...but moving forward the M8 is carrying the spirit the Evolution motor started better than the TC imho. I'll miss some of the styling, but that may get addressed. As for the rest, it handles better, rides better, and feels better (everywhere except idle. - I miss the paint shaker). I also think without the heat issues it will last much longer. I know LXT wasn't wowed by his test rides, but what he described didn't sound like typical examples of these bikes. Also these motors when new are much tighter than TCs so hopefully he'll get to ride one that's broken in...even better if it has some respectable pipes. I'm one of those guys who felt Harley was dead, until I rode one...actually it took me three rides to get it...but eventually I figured it out.

Regardless you have your '16 to love and maybe down the road something new will speak to you...or not. I had to wait a long time too..Twisted only had his Shovel until recently...now he's added an M8 Road King. A lot of us seem to be finding something to be happy about in the new bikes. The fact that you're enjoying your Twin Cam as much as you are proves you've already adapted to a lot of changes over the years. I think you'll see something in the M8 eventually. Look on the bright side...who wants to trade a '16 on an '18....that's financial pain nobody needs. I still did it, but you'll be better off if you keep hating them for a few more years first. They're probably doing you a favor. By the time they sort out things that bug you it'll be better timing.

 

Spot on!

I remember the the belt drive sturgis being the end of Harley; that was nearly 40 years ago.

 

Well.....I spent a lot of time and money on my Dyna Fat Bob making it personal. I'm not a chrome *****, so I took most of it off and replaced with black.

My new Softail Fat Bob is already done for me! The only thing I need to change is the hand levers.

I am more performance oriented, so don't want "true duals". I want a 2:1, which will probably come from RB Racing. In black. No issue with the motor sounding too quiet (which it does), as my Dyna stock exhaust was also too quiet when new.

The new frame is night and day better. My Dyna Fat Bob with Hagon Nitro shocks was already about the best handling Harley you could buy, but the new one blows it away. It's super rigid with no wriggle or writhe. The bike holds lines better, cuts corners better. It's lighter, stiffer and much more flickable. And it actually has a good amount of suspension travel. Really no comparison at all.

The "(dirt bike) inspired" monoshock is superior to the old set up. That's why performance bikes have been using them for decades. You don't see many sports bikes with dual shocks any more, or shocks that extend on travel rather than compress.

Then there's the motor. 114", four valve heads for much better airflow, plus oil cooling of the heads. It has great fueling throughout the RPM range and pulls like a train for a stock motor. Then of course, there's probably 40-50% more power to be had with modifications.

I guess it's horses for courses though. You seem to want a 20 year old bike dripping in chrome, I want the technical benefits of the new models in a muscle-car stealth look. So the new Fat Bob works perfectly for me! When I want to tour on it I can always add a backrest, when I want my wife to ride, I can add a seat with a bigger pillion.