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Old May 22, 2019 | 01:16 PM
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Seen some posts regarding fuel injection cleaners, bad gas stations and lousy gas. I used to run premium in my bikes. Then when gas went through the roof I went to mid grade. I didn't like paying upwards of 70 cents from regular.
My question is what's the difference? I dont have any pinging, detonation or any issues.
So what is the benefit of a dollar over regular running premium?
 
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Old May 22, 2019 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by wizardfitz
Seen some posts regarding fuel injection cleaners, bad gas stations and lousy gas. I used to run premium in my bikes. Then when gas went through the roof I went to mid grade. I didn't like paying upwards of 70 cents from regular.
My question is what's the difference? I dont have any pinging, detonation or any issues.
So what is the benefit of a dollar over regular running premium?
Good question!

I have a near 4500lb truck with a 300HP engine and on regular unleaded fuel I get 20-21 MPG's.
With a 925lb motorcycle with a 90HP engine on premium fuel I get 39-41 MPG's.
No "pinging" with either of them.

I guess that due to the limited amount of miles that we ride our motorcycles, the price of fuel is not as much of a factor that it is when we drive our other vehicles.

In my lifetime of using gasoline, I can honestly say that I have only had two incidents of getting "bad" gas and that was many years ago.
 

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Old May 22, 2019 | 01:29 PM
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Premium is a marketing term, commonly applied to gasoline that has a higher octane rating than gas that is not called premium. Around here it's 87 (regular) 89 (Mid- often with 15% ethanol so watch it) and 91 (premium)

The advertisers would have you believe that there is something special about this gasoline, when in fact there really isn't- other than the higher octane rating. BP oil or Amoco, or whomever they were back then got in trouble for saying that their "Gold (Premium)" gas provided more power, higher mpg, etc... It was totally false, and they got fined and had to stop advertising that way.

Some engines require higher octane gasoline than others. If my engine calls for 91 thats what it gets. If it calls for 87, I use that.

Harley lists 91 octane (aka Premium) for my bike- so that's what I use. If an engine requires 87 octane, and you put in 91 octane, there really is no benefit other than to the retailer who makes a higher margin on premium than non premium.

In addition to paying a "premium" price for premium gas, I pay even more to run gas with no ethanol, which around here is only avalaible in the Premium grade.

I use Top Tier rated gas when I can, it's supposed to have a good additive package that has detergents that keep you from hopefully needing to use fuel system cleaners.
 
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Old May 22, 2019 | 01:42 PM
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So did read this right your too cheep to put the right gas in your bike because it cost about a $1.00 more per fill up. Cant wait to see your next post, valves shot dealer wont fix them because I am to cheep. This is un-****ing-believable
 
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Old May 22, 2019 | 01:54 PM
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So did read this right your too cheep to put the right gas in your bike because it cost about a $1.00 more per fill up. Cant wait to see your next post, valves shot dealer wont fix them because I am to cheep. This is un-****ing-believable

Hasn't done any damage in 78k miles.
 
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Old May 22, 2019 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by wizardfitz
Seen some posts regarding fuel injection cleaners, bad gas stations and lousy gas. I used to run premium in my bikes. Then when gas went through the roof I went to mid grade. I didn't like paying upwards of 70 cents from regular.
My question is what's the difference? I dont have any pinging, detonation or any issues.
So what is the benefit of a dollar over regular running premium?
Every gas station in your city gets their gas from the same terminal. Only the trucks change.

Octane is merely the ability of a fuel to resist detonation.
 
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Old May 22, 2019 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by wizardfitz
Seen some posts regarding fuel injection cleaners, bad gas stations and lousy gas. I used to run premium in my bikes. Then when gas went through the roof I went to mid grade. I didn't like paying upwards of 70 cents from regular.
My question is what's the difference? I dont have any pinging, detonation or any issues.
So what is the benefit of a dollar over regular running premium?
There is no benefit. Use whatever works best for your bike.
 
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Old May 22, 2019 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Haarley
Every gas station in your city gets their gas from the same terminal. Only the trucks change.

Octane is merely the ability of a fuel to resist detonation.
Somewhat true. Different retailers will have there own custom additive packages. Part of the additional services a supplier (terminal operator or pipelline) can offer at bulk terminals is mixing and injection of custom additive packages.
 
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Originally Posted by Haarley
Every gas station in your city gets their gas from the same terminal. Only the trucks change.

Octane is merely the ability of a fuel to resist detonation.

......and occasionally different pre-fill (tanker) additives...........

EDIT:.....it helps to use newer stations with newer underground tanks, and never ever use gas from a station that also has a car-wash on site
 

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