2023's ?....
Well, that's one place Harley could offer a clear advantage, if they keep it to 30" or less.
https://www.motorcycle.com/new-model...n-the-way.html
That article is reading a whole lot into a little blip on an accessory gas cap, so -- take it with a grain of salt (or an entire salt lick).
it came from Harley'a website
Will they still sell them with subpar exhausts and motors that have to be upgraded by the dealer to "run and sound right"?
Will they be a great deal more expensive than the previous year?
With 80 CI bikes, with 88CI bikes, 96, 103, 107, etc. The stock 103 produced way more power than a stage 1 88, for example. Why weren't people saying it runs like a raped ape with a stock 103?
Personally I think the 114 is more than enough power for my Road Glide Limited (referred to by my wife as the "Loud Couch").
I think if you want more than that, its a choice, but not a criticism of the MoCo if you want to do that.
Regarding sound, you see a lot of people posting that they don't want anything too loud. So it's appropriate for Harley to set a baseline and people have options from there.
Last edited by Keithhu; Oct 7, 2022 at 10:29 AM.
https://www.yicaiglobal.com/news/qia...-hit-us-market
Previously they had said it was a licensing deal, and the Chinese-built 350cc "Harley" was made in China by a Chinese company for sale in China (and other Asian markets).
This article says it's a joint venture, HD owns 20% and QianJiang owns 80%, and that the products the JV makes will be made available outside Asia, including in the US.
If that happens, we might see an entry-level bike in HD dealerships, maybe around $7,000 or so. Harley has partnered for small bikes before, most recently with Italy's Aeromacchi, and they built and sold some 125cc and 165cc two-strokes from German blueprints. So it's not without precedent, although... A Chinese Harley sold in the US seems like it might be a tough sell for a lot of the customer base.
H-D certainly has challenges ahead. No manufacturer can compete with the sound, style and feel of the EVO, TC or M8. Maybe Indian, to a small degree. Most everyone can compete with the Rev Max. Japanese, Royal Enfield, etc. manufacturers will draw the low-cost buyers. BMW and Ducati will draw the premium buyers. H-D loyalists may choose the Rev Max but that's not growth.
Honda nailed the 'gotta-haves' vs 'costly to haves' options with the affordable NT1100. It is a wonderful mile cruncher but it's a tool and really hard to get excited about.
I enjoy the big ADVs but I am tiring of tall and heavy and leaning towards sport tourers. H-D is not even in the game.
Can't wait to see the Guzzi V100 sport tourer arrive early next year.
The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders
https://www.yicaiglobal.com/news/qia...-hit-us-market
Previously they had said it was a licensing deal, and the Chinese-built 350cc "Harley" was made in China by a Chinese company for sale in China (and other Asian markets).
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Surprisingly comfortable little beastie.
At $12,500 for an 883, who's buying them anymore anyways?.















