2023's ?....
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I subscribe to Matt Laidlaw's YouTube channel. Prior to the virtual reveals of late, he would do a live feed from the dealer show where new models were initially revealed to dealers in attendance. Matt's live feed for the 2020 model year reveal was held on 8/20/2019. Prior years live feeds from Matt also had an August date. The new models would show up on the MOCO's website the same day, shortly after the dealer show reveal.
As I said, in the 90's it was in the second half of July, the moved to August.....first was prior to Sturgis, then at Sturgis...and finally moved after Sturgis.
2020 MY was the last to be shown in a proper dealer show and in August.
After the '21 MY (and after JZ took over as CEO) it was moved to January in an online event, in his words, to coincide with the beginning of the riding season (and IMHO, it does make more sense).
2020 MY was the last to be shown in a proper dealer show and in August.
After the '21 MY (and after JZ took over as CEO) it was moved to January in an online event, in his words, to coincide with the beginning of the riding season (and IMHO, it does make more sense).
Getting back to the original discussion:
Any rumors of models that might be gone?? We've read here that the air cooled Sportster and perhaps the EG STD are gone
Anyone has had the chance to see the color chart (or is friends with any GM of a dealership to be shown)?
Any rumors of models that might be gone?? We've read here that the air cooled Sportster and perhaps the EG STD are gone
Anyone has had the chance to see the color chart (or is friends with any GM of a dealership to be shown)?
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There is likely no single "date" where all the 2023's will be announced/released. Harley has recently been having several new model announcements in each year.
January should see the introduction of all the leftover/holdover models. There will be new colors, and maybe a feature or two (like RDRS) but that's about it. There may be a slightly modified model (like the Electra Glide Standard or Low Rider ST).
Then in March/April, there COULD be another model introduction event. If there's to be a new Rev Max sport tourer, this is the timeframe they would probably introduce it (similar to the Pan America introduction).
Then, in June, we might see a Sportster introduction. I expect the Rev Max Sportster lineup rounded out this year. Perhaps the lightweight LiveWire model will be formally introduced at this time too.
Finally, there might be another random model introduction later in the year, like this year's LRST El Diablo introduction.
There will be various 2023's introduced throughout 2023, if this year is anything like the last two.
January should see the introduction of all the leftover/holdover models. There will be new colors, and maybe a feature or two (like RDRS) but that's about it. There may be a slightly modified model (like the Electra Glide Standard or Low Rider ST).
Then in March/April, there COULD be another model introduction event. If there's to be a new Rev Max sport tourer, this is the timeframe they would probably introduce it (similar to the Pan America introduction).
Then, in June, we might see a Sportster introduction. I expect the Rev Max Sportster lineup rounded out this year. Perhaps the lightweight LiveWire model will be formally introduced at this time too.
Finally, there might be another random model introduction later in the year, like this year's LRST El Diablo introduction.
There will be various 2023's introduced throughout 2023, if this year is anything like the last two.
Last edited by FatBob2018; Sep 15, 2022 at 04:25 PM.
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1) Note Aug 20 is after sturgis, and yes they allow dealers to preview *new models* prior, but the actual release date was september. 2) The 2021 full lineup was announced in January of last year, its January of this year, and that's how it will go for the foreseeable future, and it makes sense.
Last edited by barneyboy; Sep 15, 2022 at 06:09 PM.
There is likely no single "date" where all the 2023's will be announced/released. Harley has recently been having several new model announcements in each year.
January should see the introduction of all the leftover/holdover models. There will be new colors, and maybe a feature or two (like RDRS) but that's about it. There may be a slightly modified model (like the Electra Glide Standard or Low Rider ST).
Then in March/April, there COULD be another model introduction event. If there's to be a new Rev Max sport tourer, this is the timeframe they would probably introduce it (similar to the Pan America introduction).
Then, in June, we might see a Sportster introduction. I expect the Rev Max Sportster lineup rounded out this year. Perhaps the lightweight LiveWire model will be formally introduced at this time too.
Finally, there might be another random model introduction later in the year, like this year's LRST El Diablo introduction.
There will be various 2023's introduced throughout 2023, if this year is anything like the last two.
January should see the introduction of all the leftover/holdover models. There will be new colors, and maybe a feature or two (like RDRS) but that's about it. There may be a slightly modified model (like the Electra Glide Standard or Low Rider ST).
Then in March/April, there COULD be another model introduction event. If there's to be a new Rev Max sport tourer, this is the timeframe they would probably introduce it (similar to the Pan America introduction).
Then, in June, we might see a Sportster introduction. I expect the Rev Max Sportster lineup rounded out this year. Perhaps the lightweight LiveWire model will be formally introduced at this time too.
Finally, there might be another random model introduction later in the year, like this year's LRST El Diablo introduction.
There will be various 2023's introduced throughout 2023, if this year is anything like the last two.
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Back to the Rev Max sport tourer: I don't consider the Low Rider ST to be a sport touring bike, I consider it to be a "bagger lite". And I think most people shopping for a sport tourer would agree. The base Pan America is basically a sport tourer, but its adventure bike styling and height limit its appeal to those shopping for a street-only bike. A modified Pan America, with lower seat height, bigger fairing, and non-boxy luggage would fit the sport tourer category very well. As to whether they'll do it, who knows, we won't know until probably April as to whether they will or not.
Last edited by FatBob2018; Sep 16, 2022 at 10:08 AM.
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Given the success of the PanAmerica, I wouldn't be surprised to see another, smaller ADV bike released using the 975cc version of the RevMax engine.
Probably not until '24 though.
Probably not until '24 though.
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I'm hoping so. But with the new Low Rider ST sort of kind of vaguely fitting in the "sport touring" segment, maybe they think they've got that area covered for a while. I do expect to see a full line of Rev Max Sportsters introduced, those are a requirement because there's big holes in their product lineup with the discontinuance of the EVO Sportster.
Back to the Rev Max sport tourer: I don't consider the Low Rider ST to be a sport touring bike, I consider it to be a "bagger lite". And I think most people shopping for a sport tourer would agree. The base Pan America is basically a sport tourer, but its adventure bike styling and height limit its appeal to those shopping for a street-only bike. A modified Pan America, with lower seat height, bigger fairing, and non-boxy luggage would fit the sport tourer category very well. As to whether they'll do it, who knows, we won't know until probably April as to whether they will or not.
Back to the Rev Max sport tourer: I don't consider the Low Rider ST to be a sport touring bike, I consider it to be a "bagger lite". And I think most people shopping for a sport tourer would agree. The base Pan America is basically a sport tourer, but its adventure bike styling and height limit its appeal to those shopping for a street-only bike. A modified Pan America, with lower seat height, bigger fairing, and non-boxy luggage would fit the sport tourer category very well. As to whether they'll do it, who knows, we won't know until probably April as to whether they will or not.
In regards to LRST, absolute diet bagger (but badass in its own right) and you bring up very valid points regarding the Pan America. I feel we're at a pivotal point in the MoCo direction and I hope they don't loose too much of the heritage of the company and the feel of a classic Harley.