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That's all well and good if there isn't a snapped off easy out or twisted off allen bit in the middle of it that'll get the weld, the whole harder dissimilar metals thing gets real then. Harder & tool steel don't like Mr Mig spot welds, it'll pop right off soon as you put a little pressure on it. Ain't day goes by on the job I'm not trying trying to clean up a mess just like this from our floor mechanics buggering **** up just like it on the robot end tools, busted drill bits and extractors from monkeys who couldn't drill a straight hole with a drill press.
99% nickel stick welding rod works well when joining dissimilar metals.
99% nickel stick welding rod works well when joining dissimilar metals.
For us yeah, 99% of the guys asking for help in here it ain't going to remotely help them, even with a mig experienced hands will 50/50 blow it and weld the bolt to the adjuster on something that small.
Why I try to keep advice real in here guys, give the not so skilled or tooled up crew and actual chance of doing the job, most us old hands forget we're dealing with lesser skill sets just trying to figure it out.
For us yeah, 99% of the guys asking for help in here it ain't going to remotely help them, even with a mig experienced hands will 50/50 blow it and weld the bolt to the adjuster on something that small.
Why I try to keep advice real in here guys, give the not so skilled or tooled up crew and actual chance of doing the job, most us old hands forget we're dealing with lesser skill sets just trying to figure it out.
Extracting broken bolts is high level skill. It can really be infuriating. There are a few bolts in my pickup truck as I type this that I need to get medieval to remove and even thinking about it pisses me off. Trying to do it with halfass tools is just a waste of time.
If that part can be removed from the motorcycle entirely, that is a no brainer, that needs to happen and a shop that has all the toys needs to be used to get that apart.
This thread makes my butt pucker. Broken bolts are one reason I cringe at the thought of doing work on my bike, especially going in the engine. I had a broken bolt on a car throttle body once, and fortunately was able to remove it and take it to a shop. They ended up doing a Helicoil. Gogo, hopefully you get it out soon.
20916168]I would take a sharp, maybe new, "*****" punch and punch it midway between the center hole and the outer edge. Once you have a good indentation, angle the punch slightly and continue tapping with a hammer in a counter clockwise direction.
This is usually my first step in broken bolt removal.
If you are using a torch to neutralize the LocTite, don't heat the bolt to cherry red because it will cool too quickly and become brittle.
Success! Thanks for the suggestion!
I appreciate everyones input, thankfully RK4MEs suggestion was the simplest to try and worked.
Im guessing the fastener is grade 8, I couldnt really get enough indent with a punch so I used a 7/64 bit and drilled at a severe angle to create a pocket.
Heated it to flow the Loctite, then used a punch/drift pin to gently tap her loose.
I also stuck a magnet under the area I was drilling and one below in the case to catch the filings from the drill bit.
Last edited by GOGOBECK; Nov 8, 2022 at 12:31 PM.
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Congrats on your success! Use quality allen bits and anti-seize where you can. I know everything vibrates loose on a motorcycle so I loctite a lot of stuff, but it can be a hassle sometimes.
Get a small sharp chisel and tap it at an angle, don't hit any harder then light taps and it should loosen pretty easily or cut a slot into it with a cutoff wheel. Then use an impact screwdriver to remove it. A final option is drilling the head just enough to pop it off and then use vice grips to unthread the remaining screw.
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This guy has had to use his noggin a few times. Great advice. Drilling the head off was my first thought.
I appreciate everyones input, thankfully RK4MEs suggestion was the simplest to try and worked.
Im guessing the fastener is grade 8, I couldnt really get enough indent with a punch so I used a 7/64 bit and drilled at a severe angle to create a pocket.
Heated it to flow the Loctite, then used a punch/drift pin to gently tap her loose.
I also stuck a magnet under the area I was drilling and one below in the case to catch the filings from the drill bit.
Its a good day when the simple stuff works for you, nice. FYI, general hardware cad plated like that is usually gr. 5, g8 will be black or or gold coated.
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