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Old Apr 6, 2023 | 05:06 PM
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Looks like the partnership between Harley and Hero is about to give birth to a bike codenamed HD4XX. The video describes it as an air/oil-cooled mini-XR1200, and projects a price of 2.7 lakh, which translates to about $3,300. Made in India by Indians for sale to Indians. At this time it is not expected to make it to US shores.
 
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Parallel twin? I could not tell or missed that note.

I will be really curious how much of the design work was done by Harley because we know how little went into the 350 simply based on commonality with existing Benelli models
 
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Parallel twin? I could not tell or missed that note.
I don't think they clarified engine configuration other than to say it's definitely not liquid cooled, it's a relatively low-revving air cooled engine with an oil cooler.

Someone speculated it could be a single; that seems reasonable considering one of its primary competition would be the Royal Enfield line, which has a few bikes with 400-ish cc air-cooled singles.
 
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Some "details" here

So a 30bhp single... with most of if not all the work done by Hero and just a badging job effort on behalf of HD. Hopefully we learn more.
 
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Royal Enfield's 411cc single delivers about 25hp and is a relative torque monster, so 30-ish from an 8000 RPM redline sounds reasonable.

Harley did styling and Hero did the engineering, which is exactly what I would expect from a joint venture like that. The whole bike is a "premium" bike with a $3,000 price tag; Harley charges more than that for a paint job.

The whole point of these joint ventures is to produce bikes that appeal to the local customer, that serve the local customer's needs, that are priced at a point that the local customer can afford, and that give that customer some Harley flair. Nobody knows that business better than Hero in India, or QJ in China, so the strategy seems eminently practical to me.
 
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Apparently the new bike will be called the Harley X440, and uses a single cylinder air/oil cooled engine.

https://auto.hindustantimes.com/auto...008343079.html




https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ind...611-2023-05-26

Looks like the official launch will be July 3 or 4. Some of the articles are referring to it as "designed and built in India, for the world.". Does that mean we might see it made available in the US? No word on that, that I have found. But it seems the political climate makes it much more likely that we would see the X440 over here, before we would ever see the Chinese-built X350 and X500.
 

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Waiting for Dickey to comment on the rear fender....
 
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Waiting for Dickey to comment on the rear fender....
Dickey knows about rear fenders. Trust his judgment.......
 
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I can't see the rear fender in the picture well, but I bet it's going to suck!
I wonder if the exhaust smells like curry?
 

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