Frame replacement
Road Captain
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From: nashvegas
RE: Frame replacement
Sounds like the dealer is trying to make some profit. Get an attorney to review all of the info regarding the accident, upgrades,repair and insurance payout. They may be trying to coverup a knownbotched repair and billingMoCo to prevent a liability.There is somethingstinky about this deal, however we haven't really got the whole story form start to finish... but I could be wrong again.
If it is allthat easythe dealer should offer you a fantastic trade-in allowance or at least offer you a loaner bike until they complete the repairs. IMHO
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RE: Frame replacement
ORIGINAL: Gutman
Negative! The frame is ordered with the same VIN stamped in it. We recieve the frame for replacement and verify VIN. From the time the dealer recieves a return authorization he has 90 days to return. If the said frame or carnkcase is not returned,the dealer recieves a hefty $5000.00 bill.
ORIGINAL: zombie
Negative, in order for HD to replace the frame, the neck of the frame needs to be cut off and sent into MOCO before they will ship a replacement frame. This is to prove that the frame has effectively been destroyed, and the new frame is stamped with the original VIN. The title will also not reflect a "rebuild", the title doesn't change. Been there done that.
ORIGINAL: PoorBoy
Adding to your delema on this; You're going to end up with a "rebuild" vehicle Title. The VIN isn't going to match up to the original title. Somebody somewhere is going to have to make all that match up again. (either the lender or the motor vehicle office will want things matched up) You'll be getting a new VIN stamped on that new frame. Don't forget to get NEWkeys that will match-up your fork lock and ignition. More than likely you'll be living with two differentkeys (one for the fork, one for ignition).
All of this sounds like you're taking a big hit on a 6-month old bike.I would stay buddy-buddy with that dealer. They're the only ones who will show you any love when it comes time for trade-in allowance. (because they will know the whole story). Otherwise, another dealer isn't going to be too excited accepting a rebuilt as a trade. JMHO.
Also, I wonder if HD will honor an extended warranty on that bike after it gets a new frame. It might be a good time to sign up foran extended warrantybefore anyone tears into the bike.
ORIGINAL: HarleyForeverFLHX
....So I think this is going to turn into a mess.
....So I think this is going to turn into a mess.
All of this sounds like you're taking a big hit on a 6-month old bike.I would stay buddy-buddy with that dealer. They're the only ones who will show you any love when it comes time for trade-in allowance. (because they will know the whole story). Otherwise, another dealer isn't going to be too excited accepting a rebuilt as a trade. JMHO.
Also, I wonder if HD will honor an extended warranty on that bike after it gets a new frame. It might be a good time to sign up foran extended warrantybefore anyone tears into the bike.
Negative! The frame is ordered with the same VIN stamped in it. We recieve the frame for replacement and verify VIN. From the time the dealer recieves a return authorization he has 90 days to return. If the said frame or carnkcase is not returned,the dealer recieves a hefty $5000.00 bill.
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From: Fort Mill, SC
RE: Frame replacement
Somethin' smells like **** with this story, obviously there is more to it, there is no way a frame had three bends in it from the factory and the dealer just happened to notice it after and accident, possibly this was the bike that fell off the lift during dealer prep and the just realized that they, the dealer, didn't realize that the frame was bent. Somebody's trying to sell some BS here.... just not sure who.
Cruiser
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RE: Frame replacement
I wrecked my 06 Street Glide 2 1/2 weeks after I bought it. The insurance adjuster came up with $4500 in damage at the wrecker yard, but when it was towed from there to the dealership and they did their estimate it was at $9500. I ended up needing a new frame plus some more(a 45mph impact will do that!). The whoe process took about 7 weeks and most of that was waiting on parts. Once everything was in, the new frame was set up on a lift next to the wrecked bike and in less than 3 days everything was switched over. They let me upgrade anything I wanted to for chrome as long as I paid the differance ( I took advantage!). I've put over 7000 miles on it since and had only one small problem that the dealer fixed in about 2 minutes. The bike has a clear title, the same vin and the same keys that it had the day I bought it.
Road Master
Joined: Jan 2006
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From: Indianapolis
RE: Frame replacement
ORIGINAL: PoorBoy
Adding to your delema on this; You're going to end up with a "rebuild" vehicle Title. The VIN isn't going to match up to the original title....Wrong...rebuild titles areonly issued if the bike is totaled or salvaged...frames can be order from the MOCO with the exact sameVIN you just have to get the neck back to them soon after replacement.Somebody somewhere is going to have to make all that match up again. (either the lender or the motor vehicle office will want things matched up) You'll be getting a new VIN stamped on that new frame.Wrong again it will be the exact same VIN...the lender nor the motor vehicle office will need to be involved at ALL. Don't forget to get NEWkeys that will match-up your fork lock and ignition. More than likely you'll be living with two differentkeys (one for the fork, one for ignition)....
Again...for as much advise as you have offered, you must be a weatherman...nothing you have uttered is correct...any servicing dealer worth anything will be reusing the keys or ordering them per the key code for those components...they do not want you bringing them the wrong key either when they service the bike...it is just good common practice.!.....
All of this sounds like you're taking a big hit on a 6-month old bike.I would stay buddy-buddy with that dealer. They're the only ones who will show you any love when it comes time for trade-in allowance. (because they will know the whole story)....Why would the dealer that knows it has been rebuilt offer more than one that does not....But that is really BS anyhow since it wont have a salvage or rebuilt title, and the frame is a Genuine MOCO part, it will look the same.....JTF (Just The Facts)...
ORIGINAL: HarleyForeverFLHX
....So I think this is going to turn into a mess.
....So I think this is going to turn into a mess.
Again...for as much advise as you have offered, you must be a weatherman...nothing you have uttered is correct...any servicing dealer worth anything will be reusing the keys or ordering them per the key code for those components...they do not want you bringing them the wrong key either when they service the bike...it is just good common practice.!.....
All of this sounds like you're taking a big hit on a 6-month old bike.I would stay buddy-buddy with that dealer. They're the only ones who will show you any love when it comes time for trade-in allowance. (because they will know the whole story)....Why would the dealer that knows it has been rebuilt offer more than one that does not....But that is really BS anyhow since it wont have a salvage or rebuilt title, and the frame is a Genuine MOCO part, it will look the same.....JTF (Just The Facts)...
Road Master
Joined: Jan 2006
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From: Indianapolis
RE: Frame replacement
ORIGINAL: zombie
Negative, in order for HD to replace the frame, the neck of the frame needs to be cut off and sent into MOCO before they will ship a replacement frame. This is to prove that the frame has effectively been destroyed, and the new frame is stamped with the original VIN. WRONG They give the servicing dealer 90 days to get the neck part with the VIN to themAFTER the repair is made. The title will also not reflect a "rebuild", the title doesn't change. Been there done that.
Correct...
ORIGINAL: PoorBoy
Adding to your delema on this; You're going to end up with a "rebuild" vehicle Title. The VIN isn't going to match up to the original title. Somebody somewhere is going to have to make all that match up again. (either the lender or the motor vehicle office will want things matched up) You'll be getting a new VIN stamped on that new frame. Don't forget to get NEWkeys that will match-up your fork lock and ignition. More than likely you'll be living with two differentkeys (one for the fork, one for ignition).
All of this sounds like you're taking a big hit on a 6-month old bike.I would stay buddy-buddy with that dealer. They're the only ones who will show you any love when it comes time for trade-in allowance. (because they will know the whole story). Otherwise, another dealer isn't going to be too excited accepting a rebuilt as a trade. JMHO.
Also, I wonder if HD will honor an extended warranty on that bike after it gets a new frame. It might be a good time to sign up foran extended warrantybefore anyone tears into the bike.
ORIGINAL: HarleyForeverFLHX
....So I think this is going to turn into a mess.
....So I think this is going to turn into a mess.
All of this sounds like you're taking a big hit on a 6-month old bike.I would stay buddy-buddy with that dealer. They're the only ones who will show you any love when it comes time for trade-in allowance. (because they will know the whole story). Otherwise, another dealer isn't going to be too excited accepting a rebuilt as a trade. JMHO.
Also, I wonder if HD will honor an extended warranty on that bike after it gets a new frame. It might be a good time to sign up foran extended warrantybefore anyone tears into the bike.
Correct...
Road Master
Joined: Aug 2007
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From: NC Mountains
RE: Frame replacement
Yeah, or the owner...
ORIGINAL: tda69
That is unless the dealer is the responsible party as towhy the frame was damaged in the first place.
That is unless the dealer is the responsible party as towhy the frame was damaged in the first place.
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Joined: Feb 2007
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From: Inwood....Northwest Iowa
RE: Frame replacement
ORIGINAL: NC_RIDER
I wrecked my 06 Street Glide 2 1/2 weeks after I bought it. The insurance adjuster came up with $4500 in damage at the wrecker yard, but when it was towed from there to the dealership and they did their estimate it was at $9500. I ended up needing a new frame plus some more(a 45mph impact will do that!). The whoe process took about 7 weeks and most of that was waiting on parts. Once everything was in, the new frame was set up on a lift next to the wrecked bike and in less than 3 days everything was switched over. They let me upgrade anything I wanted to for chrome as long as I paid the differance ( I took advantage!). I've put over 7000 miles on it since and had only one small problem that the dealer fixed in about 2 minutes. The bike has a clear title, the same vin and the same keys that it had the day I bought it.
I wrecked my 06 Street Glide 2 1/2 weeks after I bought it. The insurance adjuster came up with $4500 in damage at the wrecker yard, but when it was towed from there to the dealership and they did their estimate it was at $9500. I ended up needing a new frame plus some more(a 45mph impact will do that!). The whoe process took about 7 weeks and most of that was waiting on parts. Once everything was in, the new frame was set up on a lift next to the wrecked bike and in less than 3 days everything was switched over. They let me upgrade anything I wanted to for chrome as long as I paid the differance ( I took advantage!). I've put over 7000 miles on it since and had only one small problem that the dealer fixed in about 2 minutes. The bike has a clear title, the same vin and the same keys that it had the day I bought it.
Road Warrior
Joined: May 2007
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From: Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan
RE: Frame replacement
Did you complain to the dealer before or after your wreck about the tracking problem? If before you might have a legatimite claim, if after I don't think you have a leg to stand on.