base decals??????????
Tourer
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From: Northern Virginia
RE: base decals??????????
ORIGINAL: HOGinit
Decals smecals, The Riders edge course is great and never hurt anyone. It is a lot of fun and good practice. I take it usually once a year and never let it go more than two years, Just good practice if nothing else it precludes forming bad habits and is a good tune up. The Riders edge program is one of the reasons that I became an ex GW puke and got a Harley n now I am sold. find out when the next Riders Edge Experienced Riders course is and take it. Then you will be set.
And you will have fun doing it.
Decals smecals, The Riders edge course is great and never hurt anyone. It is a lot of fun and good practice. I take it usually once a year and never let it go more than two years, Just good practice if nothing else it precludes forming bad habits and is a good tune up. The Riders edge program is one of the reasons that I became an ex GW puke and got a Harley n now I am sold. find out when the next Riders Edge Experienced Riders course is and take it. Then you will be set.
And you will have fun doing it.
I don't think anyone is complaining about taking the course (for active duty it is free on base). I think the complaint is that they have to retake it every five years. The problem for active duty folks (Army)is that if their training is "expired" they are not allowed to ride the bike at all, not even off post until they can get re-trained. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't be happy either if I had to park the bike beacause I could not get into a class. Here on Fort Drum, the entire season of classes are usually full by May (and the off post classes are often full as well) so it is not as simple as just signing up and taking the training here. Due to the short riding season and limited instructors, training is hard to come by. If you are not one of the lucky ones to get scheduled, you might have to wait a year for the next class. Re-training every five years would cause the classes to fill up quicker and there will be a lot of Soldiers either riding illegally (they can face loss of pay (fines), demotions, and loss of driving privileges if caught even off the installation) or parking their bikes.
SO165,
To answer your question. Here on Ft Drum the safety card never expires (they thought about requiring refresher every 3 years; but, ruled it out due to limited class availability). However, I try to show up for the ERC every couple of years and try to get into a class as a stand-by just for the refresher training. It never fails, there are usually one or two knuckleheads that think it is a game and show up for class 5-10 minutes late. The instructor usually gives their slots to stand-bys and sends them away for not taking the training seriously.
Road Warrior
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From: Poquoson, VA
RE: base decals??????????
I took my MSF course in 96 and as long as I have the card it is good enough for me to get a base decal on a Navy base. Got one in 06.
I'm sure rules are different from service to service and possibly from base to base.
I'm sure rules are different from service to service and possibly from base to base.
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RE: base decals??????????
DoD reg 6055.4 http://www.js.pentagon.mil/whs/direc...df/605504p.pdfjust says you have to complete the course. Maybe the Army or Ft. Campbell has a more restrictive supplement? I've been in the Air Force 16 1/2 years and have had 5 different PCS's and I've only had to take the course one time.
Supporter
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From: along the shore of Mishigami
RE: base decals??????????
years agothe nav had us take it every three years and then the sticker went on the left fork, no if,and, or buts. It was so much fun back challenging the base policy and addressing the base C.O. about the outdated policies, sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't. The bike stayed home when the orange vests were being pushed on us. Is that requirement still there? And the Master at Arms had a real cow when we could wear non-military protective gear over our uniforms, oh those where the days. Thanks for the memories. Streetbob, always remember "once a chief always a chief", and "that was the best day of my life!"
Road Master
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From: NORVA / Pittsboro, IN
RE: base decals??????????
ORIGINAL: SMSgt B
In Europe, you must take the MSF training course every 3 years.
In Europe, you must take the MSF training course every 3 years.
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RE: base decals??????????
so165, found this in a previous edition of the Courier. http://www.fortcampbellcourier.com/a...ews/news14.txtDoesn't state anything about being 5 years current, but who knows what local reg supplements they've passed. I'm originally from Clarksville, which is why I knew where to go to find this info. Good luck iether way!
Road Warrior
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RE: base decals??????????
ORIGINAL: 07RoadGlide
so165, found this in a previous edition of the Courier. http://www.fortcampbellcourier.com/a...ews/news14.txtDoesn't state anything about being 5 years current, but who knows what local reg supplements they've passed. I'm originally from Clarksville, which is why I knew where to go to find this info. Good luck iether way!
so165, found this in a previous edition of the Courier. http://www.fortcampbellcourier.com/a...ews/news14.txtDoesn't state anything about being 5 years current, but who knows what local reg supplements they've passed. I'm originally from Clarksville, which is why I knew where to go to find this info. Good luck iether way!
(4) Operators will not be required to repeat BRC training when relocating to a new assignment. This does not restrict commanders from requiring additional motorcycle safety training specific to that location.
Note if there is no "location specific training" simply being "old" is not authorization to refuse to issue a sticker.
Road Captain
Joined: Aug 2007
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From: Hollister, California
RE: base decals??????????
its every three years on All Military Bases in Japan.It used to bea one shot deal and only the BRC (Basic Rider Course) now you have to take the ERC(Experienced Rider Course) also,Once you get both cards you get your license/Decal.You will have to renew only the ERC every three years. I donr see the point of retaking the same course every three years, do they think we will forget??? They got me by the short hairs too because I live on post. oh well.
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Tourer
Joined: Mar 2007
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From: Arizona
RE: base decals??????????
I took the course in 1988 and still use the card to get new stickers.
I don't put the stickers on my forks. I made a sticker plate and mounted it to my bikes. Here are some bad pictures.
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I don't put the stickers on my forks. I made a sticker plate and mounted it to my bikes. Here are some bad pictures.
[IMG]local://upfiles/26045/49D2C0056703476486DD29E9ED7B7984.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]local://upfiles/26045/29BEA2D995B04D15BD30331E4E2D0811.jpg[/IMG]
Tourer
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From: Northern Virginia
RE: base decals??????????
ORIGINAL: DirtyDave
I took the course in 1988 and still use the card to get new stickers.
I don't put the stickers on my forks. I made a sticker plate and mounted it to my bikes. Here are some bad pictures.
[IMG]local://upfiles/26045/49D2C0056703476486DD29E9ED7B7984.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]local://upfiles/26045/29BEA2D995B04D15BD30331E4E2D0811.jpg[/IMG]
I took the course in 1988 and still use the card to get new stickers.
I don't put the stickers on my forks. I made a sticker plate and mounted it to my bikes. Here are some bad pictures.
[IMG]local://upfiles/26045/49D2C0056703476486DD29E9ED7B7984.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]local://upfiles/26045/29BEA2D995B04D15BD30331E4E2D0811.jpg[/IMG]