Startling information from a fairly reliable source...

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Feb 22, 2008 | 02:28 PM

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RE: Startling information from a fairly reliable source...

a reliable source said i should check out this thread.

Feb 22, 2008 | 02:32 PM

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Wecroft

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RE: Startling information from a fairly reliable source...

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ORIGINAL: pkenyon1

I have heard it said that...

'HD is a class 3 motorcycle, that is it has CERTIFIED with EPA as having a useful life of 5 years or 36,000 kilometers = 18,000 miles !!! And no matter what anyone tells you that is what HD certifies their bikes for'.

'In USA with EPA and CARB every manufacturer has to warranty the Emission system performance for the USEFUL LIFE of the vehicle and it is the manufacturer that declares what it is and has to support it with engineering data. If they misrepresent the durability data then they can be fined $5,000 to $25,000 per vehicle ! SO if the company under Federal Law certifies their product to be durable for 18,000 miles or 5 years you should take it seriously. Since 2000 both EPA and CARB are enforcing the law and both SUZUKI and YAMAHA just got fined big time, just for having the WRONG LABEL on the bike !!! (Emission Certification Label).'

Anyone like to add anything to this??

Clearly these bikes CAN last much longer than 18,000 miles, but if this report is accurate then it is interesting to see what the MoCo 'true' estimate of the lifespan of components is listed as!!!

WTF? You ask for input then you jump down the throat of the first person to comment. Good thing you're "VP of Sales" according to your profile. I'd hate to think of how you'd handle a position in public relations. You sure you're not really French?

Feb 22, 2008 | 02:37 PM

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barjbar

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RE: Startling information from a fairly reliable source...

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ORIGINAL: Tony P

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Pass the popcorn please.

Feb 22, 2008 | 02:47 PM

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RHPAW

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RE: Startling information from a fairly reliable source...

Oh no, wait until my Shovelhead finds out it has outlived it's useful life 11 times. Of course, everybody knows that whatever the EPA says is gospel.

I always thought I lacked class......now I know better. I gots 3.

Feb 22, 2008 | 02:48 PM

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roadkingbigjoe

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RE: Startling information from a fairly reliable source...

pkenyon1,First off don't threaten me boy. You clearly only got on here to start trouble. I have no problem jabbing fun at anyone, I had fun with electricks last thread, but I do it directly to thier thier face. This was clearly posted to start trouble aimed at HD and its owners, maybe you are one maybe your not or maybe you are unhappy with your HD, so cover all the above follow this...
If you have a HD and are happy, just enjoy it and start posting something useful
If you have a HD and are unhappy, sell it and find a new fourm to troll around in
If you have any thing other than a HD, keep you opinions to your self and go away

Either way don't go out of your way to start crap!

Feb 22, 2008 | 03:03 PM

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WireDawg

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RE: Startling information from a fairly reliable source...

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ORIGINAL: cstolp

Ok as I suspected the 5 year 18000 mile is the warranty on the emmissions systems not the bike as a whole.

Here is the document: http://www.epa.gov/otaq/regs/roadbik...arley-pres.pdf

Thanks for the clarification.........My "Emissions System" will last a whole lot longer than 18K & 5y as it's sitting in a box, on a shelf in my garage