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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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Bill Gates requires me toclick on the Start button to turn my computer off.
OR, you can press control/alt/delete.
On a motorcycle that would be horn/off button/ignitionswitch. [sm=icon_rofl.gif]

LMFAO...Now thats funny right there....
 
Old Mar 7, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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I only use my kill switch when parking on an incline and leave the motorcycle in gear. That way if the kill switch is in the off position I know I need to hold the clutch in when starting. I hit the starter button one time with the bike in gear and if it wasn't sitting on the jiffy stand I know it would have gone over.
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I do the same with mine. Also here in Canada, daytime running lights are manditory. If you just hit the kill switch, it just shuts off the fuel pump and leaves the lights on. The parking on an incline senario is the only time I use the kill switch to leave it in gear then turn off the ignition.


 
Old Mar 7, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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If I'm parking the bike uphill or anytime I want to leave it in gear as a parking brake, I use the kill switch to remind me that the bike is in gear. Otherwise, I just use the "ignition switch". I have done it this way for the past 40 years, no problema.[8D]
+1 This is the only time I use the kill switch when riding the street machines.
Dirt bikes - different story, no ignition switch.

As for the MOCO telling you so, doesn't the MOCO tell you to run legal exhaust? Wear a helmet? etc, etc.? The MOCO is telling you this becasue they are mandated by the Government, not for safety reasons.

 
Old Mar 7, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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If I'm parking the bike uphill or anytime I want to leave it in gear as a parking brake, I use the kill switch to remind me that the bike is in gear. Otherwise, I just use the "ignition switch". I have done it this way for the past 40 years, no problema.[8D]
+1 This is the only time I use the kill switch when riding the street machines.
Dirt bikes - different story, no ignition switch.

As for the MOCO telling you so, doesn't the MOCO tell you to run legal exhaust? Wear a helmet? etc, etc.? The MOCO is telling you this becasue they are mandated by the Government, not for safety reasons.

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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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I use the ignition switch about 90% of the time. The kill switch I use only when I want to get the bike quiet fast.
I don't do everything the MoCo tells me to do..
 
Old Mar 7, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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One way to eliminate all this confusion would be to just disconect the negative battery cable.Or how about pulling the sparkplug cables!
Then we would not have to worryabout loads on the switches.
 
Old Mar 7, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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Says right in the owners manual to shut the bike off with the kill switch then the key. And, that is what I do and the fact that it is more convenient than the key.
Ditto!
 
Old Mar 7, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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right thumb - right now. That's what they taught in the MSF course I took. Safer to shut the engine down with both hands on the handlebars. It's a great concept, but I still usually hit the ignition switch after I put it in neutral
 
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There have been several articules hinting at speedo failures and electronics failing from using key switch to kill the bike instead of the kill switch. Also the articules stated that they recommended that the key be turned on and then the kill switch to start the bike. I normally turn the key on let ecm ramp up then turn on kill switch and listen to the fuel pump ramp up then hit the starter switch. I don't really know if it makes a difference but I will continue this till something smarter comes along.
On my 02 Wide Glide, everytime I used the ignition to kill the bike, the next time I started it the speedo would only go up to about ten miles per hour no matter what speed I was going. I would have to stop and kill the bike with the kill switch, cycle the ignition switch two or three times & then start back up. After that, all would work fine. Never had the problem as long as I used the kill switch first. Dealer had no explaination. Weird.
Back in 99 when I bought my first fuel injected Harley that is exactly what the salesman told mecould happen. He said to turn on the ignition switch, let the bike run through it's self-check (until red key dummy light goes out), then turn the OFF/RUNswitch to the 'run' position until the fuel pumpstops (yellowfuel pump dummy light goes out), then hit the 'start' button and off ya go. When stopping, turn off the bike by flipping the OFF/RUN switch to the 'off' position and then turn off the ignition switch. Notice I called it OFF/RUN switch, not KILL switch. Been doing it that way ever since with absolutely NO problems.
Look at it like you're shutting your computer down, which is pretty much what modern bike electronics are. You don't just turn the 'puter off, you shut down the operating system, then turn the power off.
This is you correct answer in a nutshell,, plus its just a good habit to be into, if you have to use it in an emergency. Tim

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There have been several articules hinting at speedo failures and electronics failing from using key switch to kill the bike instead of the kill switch. Also the articules stated that they recommended that the key be turned on and then the kill switch to start the bike. I normally turn the key on let ecm ramp up then turn on kill switch and listen to the fuel pump ramp up then hit the starter switch. I don't really know if it makes a difference but I will continue this till something smarter comes along.
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