Whose fault was the accident???
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RE: Whose fault was the accident???
Hers....Me in the left lane of a 4 lane non divided road. Van in the right lane going same direction as me, turning in to parking lot. Car in oncoming lane closest to my lane waiting to turn into the same lot. Dip wad comes flying out of the lot( hidden from me by van) and is turning LEFT, hits me, drives me into stopped car meeting me head on, bike stops, my big butt plays superman for about 30 feet.
Now, this said, Had I have backed off the van so that I could see the peanut head that hit me, or slowed to less than the 35 I was doing or...... I saw her car just in time to jerk my leg up and out of the way of her bumper. My crash bar (Ultra) was bent back against the air cleaner. Tore her bumper, grill and hood up and neatly removed the front end of the Honda I hit. She could have taken my leg off.
Ride safe
Bubba
Now, this said, Had I have backed off the van so that I could see the peanut head that hit me, or slowed to less than the 35 I was doing or...... I saw her car just in time to jerk my leg up and out of the way of her bumper. My crash bar (Ultra) was bent back against the air cleaner. Tore her bumper, grill and hood up and neatly removed the front end of the Honda I hit. She could have taken my leg off.
Ride safe
Bubba
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RE: Whose fault was the accident???
Mine was a solo... first ride in the spring.... roads still dirty, going past a lumberyard where trucks were pulling onto the highway all the time. Didn't realize they were laying down a thin layer of dust on the road. Lightly grabbed the front brake as I entered a different speed zone. Front wheel locked up. I released immediately but then went into a tank slapper. Down I went at 50 mph. Oncoming pickup missed my head by about a foot. Got some bad road rash where I ground through the leathers (too thin leather pants), even though I tried to tumble. Bike ended up cartwheeling and sustained bent handlebars, broken crash bars and a broken rear turn signal. All which I repaired myself.
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From: Central Illinois, Between I-80 and I-74
RE: Whose fault was the accident???
I've never droppeda bike at speed. Dropped a couple in the diveway.
I've had several close calls that would not have beenmy fault.
I've had several close calls that would not have beenmy fault.
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RE: Whose fault was the accident???
ORIGINAL: sleepneagle
when on a bike, it's always your fault. You didn't observe and evaluate to avoid.
You are invisible, you have to prevent an accident.
when on a bike, it's always your fault. You didn't observe and evaluate to avoid.
You are invisible, you have to prevent an accident.
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From: Ontario, Canada
RE: Whose fault was the accident???
ORIGINAL: sleepneagle
when on a bike, it's always your fault. You didn't observe and evaluate to avoid.
You are invisible, you have to prevent an accident.
when on a bike, it's always your fault. You didn't observe and evaluate to avoid.
You are invisible, you have to prevent an accident.
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RE: Whose fault was the accident???
My first and only accident was when I first started riding. I was in the blind spot and got run up over the curb. I have learned from my experience and watching others. I have been riding over 40 years with no accidents.
Yup damn near everything you say. expect that something is going to happen and practice prevention. Can't tell you how many times I have been nearly run over from the rear. I always have an escape plan in my head. I don't ride in pu%%y groups because I don't know the riders, I prefer the rear so I can see all the idiot chit.
I really love the phrase "I had to lay her down", that's bull chit. you were asleep and not riding defensively.
Yup damn near everything you say. expect that something is going to happen and practice prevention. Can't tell you how many times I have been nearly run over from the rear. I always have an escape plan in my head. I don't ride in pu%%y groups because I don't know the riders, I prefer the rear so I can see all the idiot chit.
I really love the phrase "I had to lay her down", that's bull chit. you were asleep and not riding defensively.
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From: Bellville, Tx
RE: Whose fault was the accident???
ORIGINAL: sleepneagle
when on a bike, it's always your fault. You didn't observe and evaluate to avoid.
You are invisible, you have to prevent an accident.
when on a bike, it's always your fault. You didn't observe and evaluate to avoid.
You are invisible, you have to prevent an accident.
Reviewing the accident, I don't know of any way I could have avoided it. It was as if she timed it so that I would not have the time or distance to react. This was on my route to work and I pass quite a few cars on a daily basis, the ranches and homes are sparse with drives unmarked and often just dirt paths.
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From: columbia station, oh
RE: Whose fault was the accident???
The one time I got hit (and didn't go down amazingly enough) I watched the [censored] pull out of the gas station, stop, restart, stop again, and then he restarted again into my path. I swerved as far over as i could without going into the path of other traffic when his right front corner thumped my right saddlebag guard and saddlebag. Sometimes there is no alternative to getting hit or going down, especially if it keeps you from going into oncoming traffic.