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Old 02-04-2006, 04:24 PM
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Anyone know where the fallacy came from that an FXR is classified as a Dyna. I first noticed this on E-Bay, as they group them together making it confusing to find a FXR? I've since noticed that others make the same reference.

I've owned both Dyna's & FXR's, and they are not the same bike!!!!! Other than sharing a narrow glide front end, I don't think they even compare. FXR's have a completely different frame, Primary size & various very different parts. Not to mention the FXR is superior to the Dyna in handling, weight & quickness. If anyone has looked at or ridden both, I think they'll agree.

A mild FXR will outrun and outhandle any Dyna. Don't get me wrong, I think the Dyna is a great bike, but there is NO comparison!!!!!!!!!!

I like 'em both but come on................................................ .!
 
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FXRs have lost their relevence. They've been out of production for a dozen model years. True, they are a superior motorcycle when compared to the Dyna but, there aren't many left out there comparativly.
The Dyna's only real claim to fame is that they are cheaper to manufacture.
I still have my '92 FXRT in stock form and probably will never let it go, it's too unique.
I have owned Dynas but they were not keepers, the FXRT is.

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Anyone know where the fallacy came from that an FXR is classified as a Dyna. I first noticed this on E-Bay, as they group them together making it confusing to find a FXR? I've since noticed that others make the same reference.

I've owned both Dyna's & FXR's, and they are not the same bike!!!!! Other than sharing a narrow glide front end, I don't think they even compare. FXR's have a completely different frame, Primary size & various very different parts. Not to mention the FXR is superior to the Dyna in handling, weight & quickness. If anyone has looked at or ridden both, I think they'll agree.

A mild FXR will outrun and outhandle any Dyna. Don't get me wrong, I think the Dyna is a great bike, but there is NO comparison!!!!!!!!!!

I like 'em both but come on................................................ .!
I have not seen anything, in forum's or anywhere else, where it's "classified as a Dyna." The FXR is usually grouped in with the Dyna for convenience only. Check this forum and you'll see that it's a sub forum of the Dyna thread. With that said, it's still the bike that evolved the Dyna. Below is a pic of mine, however, I can tell you, it's no match for my 05 Dyna. The only place it excells is in vibration, it is noticeably smoother do to the absorption quality's of the original and complicated engine mounting system. I will agree, at the time it was built, it was the best, but not now.

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The dyna evolved from the FXR and the FXR was a much better frame than the dynas in that it was more rigis because of the gusseting in the side areas. That's why they became extinct except for the cvo FXR's in the late 90's. I believe the reason for discontinuing them was because of the cost to manufacture the frame mostly. The FXR hinges the rear swing arm off the frame where the dyna hinges it off the rear of the transmission causing some wallow in certain types of turns due to the flexibility of the rubber mounts. The FXR was probably the best bike that was built by the moco.
 
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Snarly, Thanks for the reply. Maybe I used the wrong word "classified" and should have said " grouped" or "categorized". Still makes no sense to me to group them together, as they are so different. I have seen this reference on a few different occasions & still don't understand.

A FXR is a FXR & is in no way related to the Dyna, although you are right about it being the predecessor to the Dyna. Too bad MOCO made the change to a much heavier machine that is in my opinion, not near the bike that the FXR was. That's just my opinion after having both.

My current FXR is a modified '91 FXRP (police). Its still an 80 incher with stock gearing, only stage 1 mods, and it will outrun & outhandle most all Dyna's Evo or Twin Cam. This FXR does 2'nd gear wheelies on a regular basis with ease. I had a FXDWG with a HOT 88"er that could not even compare. I then made it a Stage 3 95" that put out 110HP/115# Torque. My FXR couldn't beat that one, but I can beat most others. My partner has a FXD with a great running Stage 1 95"er and he can't beat me although we're close. Im in the process of going to Stage IV and in a couple of weeks, it won't even be a race.

Enough of the comparison, as my main question was about the categorizing the FXR with a Dyna.

P.S. The Dyna is still my 1st choice in NEW H-D's since the FXR is no longer available. I've also owned Softails and they're terrible in the ride/handling dept., not to mention the heavy weight.
 
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I believe the reason for discontinuing them was because of the cost to manufacture the frame mostly.
Couldn't be anymore expensive that the VROD frame.
 
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I believe the reason for discontinuing them was because of the cost to manufacture the frame mostly.
Couldn't be anymore expensive that the VROD frame.

The V-rod is hydroformed and is new tech that was not is use with the FXR.
IMO what finally killed off the FXR's is the TC engine design that does not fit in an FXR chassis.
The very last of the Evos went into limited edition FXRs in 2000 making the FXR4 the only Evo big twin bike that year and the last Evo Big Twin as well.
 
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The reason for the demise or the FXR wasn't the tiwn cam, is was manufacturing cost. Dynas came about during the Evo era and were procuced for about 7 years (91-98) before the twin cam. The FXRs last production year was 1994 with only the FXLR model. Any others after that were CVO bikes.

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i'm sorry guys i have had both and i will take the new dyna's over the fxr any day .its no differnt than the guys about panheads and knuckels or even the 45's every body got there choice . but i do respect that you all have your reason's and i have mind.
 
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Well yea, you would...but you don't just have a Dyna, you have a Dyna with a Twin Cam, imagine how great that driveline would be in an FXR frame!
The last Dyna I had was an Evo FXDS and after about 5k miles the engine would bang into the frame if I would hit a bump with a passenger/load. Apearently the mounts would soften up after 5000 miles and allow it. The bike just didn't do it for me anymore.
Now, with a Twinki motor and 6 speed ,(even though they are all recalled) They are great bikes but, that still doesn't change the fact that the FXR chassis is stiffer and handles better.

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i'm sorry guys i have had both and i will take the new dyna's over the fxr any day .its no differnt than the guys about panheads and knuckels or even the 45's every body got there choice . but i do respect that you all have your reason's and i have mind.
 


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