Mongols The END
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From: Puget Sound, WA.
Is there anyone that remembers Waco?
How many kids did they kill?
I have a problem with any civilian law enforcement routinely carrying an M-16 with a 30 round magazine inserted into a neighborhood or school with the probability of having a free fire situation and spraying rounds in all directions.
Of course the laws have been re-written that any LE caused deaths and injuries will be charged against the person on the warrant.
We must defend even the guilty with the bill of rights and constitution or it will eventually blow back on us all.
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From: Tennessee
Mongols, The END....
Really? I think it's great that that LEO community got their asses handed to them with regard to the unconstitutional BS that they attempted to use against that club.
I remember at the time that this happened that the LEO's were all talking about how they were gonna use this **** against all clubs...
How'd that work out for them?
Really? I think it's great that that LEO community got their asses handed to them with regard to the unconstitutional BS that they attempted to use against that club.
I remember at the time that this happened that the LEO's were all talking about how they were gonna use this **** against all clubs...
How'd that work out for them?
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 458
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From: Havertown, PA
Mongols, The END....
Really? I think it's great that that LEO community got their asses handed to them with regard to the unconstitutional BS that they attempted to use against that club.
I remember at the time that this happened that the LEO's were all talking about how they were gonna use this **** against all clubs...
How'd that work out for them?
Really? I think it's great that that LEO community got their asses handed to them with regard to the unconstitutional BS that they attempted to use against that club.
I remember at the time that this happened that the LEO's were all talking about how they were gonna use this **** against all clubs...
How'd that work out for them?
If the government is able to take their patch because of the trademark then it will only be time that they start going after "ALL" clubs they think are a "threat". The Mongols have been dumping a ton of money into this case and even if we don't agree with the club and what some think they represent we should be worried what is next. COC's across the country are helping them fight this case because of the treat it can cause to our rights to fly our colors.
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From: USA
Mongols, The END....
Really? I think it's great that that LEO community got their asses handed to them with regard to the unconstitutional BS that they attempted to use against that club.
I remember at the time that this happened that the LEO's were all talking about how they were gonna use this **** against all clubs...
How'd that work out for them?
Really? I think it's great that that LEO community got their asses handed to them with regard to the unconstitutional BS that they attempted to use against that club.
I remember at the time that this happened that the LEO's were all talking about how they were gonna use this **** against all clubs...
How'd that work out for them?
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From: USA
This is how they are going after them now: http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/gene...-mongols-patch
If the government is able to take their patch because of the trademark then it will only be time that they start going after "ALL" clubs they think are a "threat". The Mongols have been dumping a ton of money into this case and even if we don't agree with the club and what some think they represent we should be worried what is next. COC's across the country are helping them fight this case because of the treat it can cause to our rights to fly our colors.
If the government is able to take their patch because of the trademark then it will only be time that they start going after "ALL" clubs they think are a "threat". The Mongols have been dumping a ton of money into this case and even if we don't agree with the club and what some think they represent we should be worried what is next. COC's across the country are helping them fight this case because of the treat it can cause to our rights to fly our colors.
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From: Ione, CA
Terrible what happened to the guy. I mean that.
BUT...
I have little use for SWAT teams. They do lots and lots and lots of bad things and the collateral damage to their raids such as getting into the wrong house, killing the neighbor's dog with impunity and being general bullies and ******** makes me think that maybe you don't want to play on that team or if you do be prepared for what happens when you mess up -- like not clearly identifying yourself when you bust up someone's home...
BUT...
I have little use for SWAT teams. They do lots and lots and lots of bad things and the collateral damage to their raids such as getting into the wrong house, killing the neighbor's dog with impunity and being general bullies and ******** makes me think that maybe you don't want to play on that team or if you do be prepared for what happens when you mess up -- like not clearly identifying yourself when you bust up someone's home...
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From: Puget Sound, WA.
HOG, ABATE, and The Blue Knights qualify as a "Gang"
http://www.nationalgangcenter.gov/Co...efinitions.pdf
- An association of three or more individuals;
- Whose members collectively identify themselves by adopting a group identity, which they use to create an atmosphere of fear or intimidation, frequently by employing one or more of the following: a common name, slogan, identifying sign, symbol, tattoo or other physical marking, style or color of clothing, hairstyle, hand sign or graffiti;
- The members may employ rules for joining and operating within the association.
- The members may meet on a recurring basis.
- The association may provide physical protection of its members from others.
- The association may seek to exercise control over a particular geographic location or region, or it may simply defend its perceived interests against rivals.
- The association may have an identifiable structure.
http://www.nationalgangcenter.gov/Co...efinitions.pdf
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From: USA
HOG, ABATE, and The Blue Knights qualify as a "Gang"
http://www.nationalgangcenter.gov/Co...efinitions.pdf
- An association of three or more individuals;
- Whose members collectively identify themselves by adopting a group identity, which they use to create an atmosphere of fear or intimidation, frequently by employing one or more of the following: a common name, slogan, identifying sign, symbol, tattoo or other physical marking, style or color of clothing, hairstyle, hand sign or graffiti;
- The members may employ rules for joining and operating within the association.
- The members may meet on a recurring basis.
- The association may provide physical protection of its members from others.
- The association may seek to exercise control over a particular geographic location or region, or it may simply defend its perceived interests against rivals.
- The association may have an identifiable structure.
http://www.nationalgangcenter.gov/Co...efinitions.pdf
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 458
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From: Havertown, PA
HOG, ABATE, and The Blue Knights qualify as a "Gang"
http://www.nationalgangcenter.gov/Co...efinitions.pdf
- An association of three or more individuals;
- Whose members collectively identify themselves by adopting a group identity, which they use to create an atmosphere of fear or intimidation, frequently by employing one or more of the following: a common name, slogan, identifying sign, symbol, tattoo or other physical marking, style or color of clothing, hairstyle, hand sign or graffiti;
- The members may employ rules for joining and operating within the association.
- The members may meet on a recurring basis.
- The association may provide physical protection of its members from others.
- The association may seek to exercise control over a particular geographic location or region, or it may simply defend its perceived interests against rivals.
- The association may have an identifiable structure.
http://www.nationalgangcenter.gov/Co...efinitions.pdf