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Let her buy a car that is $35,000.00 and then you can say that she paid 2 times what you did just to get a roof.
When I bought my new bike I was chincy with the down payment because I knew for a fact that within a few months she would be pushing for a new car. The price of new cars I knew we would need all of the money we had to get her payment down. To her credit...with the way the auto industry is right now she talked them into giving her $8,000.00 off of the darn thing. What can I say?
I have a 1993 Ford Ranger with less than 120,000 miles on it.... I paid 13k for it new. It's a LOT of fun, and very useable, but I've had company trucks for most of it's life, and it sits more than it drives. Mean while I have well over 140,000 mile of the last two bikes going back to 2002.
Side by side... inch for inch, pound for pound... is MY Road Glide bigger, better,faster, more powerful, more comfortable, more fun etc etc etc than my Ranger?
Yes to some no to others.
I bought a Honda 1100 Spirit, for about HALF what the local dealers were asking for a Super Glide. Sure I know you'll reply with "resale values" but, I don't buy a bike to sell, I put 130,000 miles on that Honda. and still got $3g in trade in.... that's a pretty good "return for investment"
Now I have a Road Glide. I can look at MY bike, alongside a Soft tail, or Dyna, or Metric, and say... (to myself) I DO have "more bike" than that other one. It's all relative.
There are bikes out there that cost MORE, and bikes that cost less. Buy WHAT you want, and stop comparing.
While I had a problem justifying the price tag of my SG, heck, still do, folks spend plenty on boats which are probably used less in many cases. I do however understand what the thread author is saying.
It is obvious we all have different ideas of what a Harley is worth.Is anything today worth the money being asked.Just maybe the price of a Harley makes owning one that much better.The best thing about a Harley in good times is that you can get your investment back.Not like so many other things in this world.Harley's to me are worth every cent.
Maybe not exactly on topic, but I track the "value" of a vehicle (4 wheels or 2) by simply keeping a log of all expenses directly required to keep it running legal -- cost to purchase, fuel, insurance, maint/repair, etc. -- and periodically divide that cumulative total by the mileage (simple spreadsheet function). It's not hard to do once you get in the habit of hanging on to receipts, and can be quite eye-opening.
As long as the cost per mile is trending down, it makes sense to keep running the vehicle. Once the slope of that trend line changes and the cost/mile is trending up, it's time to think about something new(er).
With my bikes, however, I do not include the cost of bling and farkles which are just for show -- I don't spend much on that stuff anyway.
It is their product, their market..........capitalism at work as it should be. If someone else can make a bike and market it for half the cost and get the loyalty from the purchasers then they will have built the better mousetrap.
Wouldn't it also be unfair to simply compare the amount of raw stock/R&D on bikes vs. cages? There is heavy overhead in both manufacturing venues but a heck of a lot more volume in cars then bikes.
If I was HD, don't think I would be worried too much about my price point, but I would be drilling into my service-to-customer to the inth degree. Keeping the faithful in line especially in tough times is what should/could keep my products value high. Just my $0.02
My question really is do you think Harleys are overpriced or are we buying the name the harley mystic? I don't know.......but we do.
Look how many HD's are on the road. If they were "overpriced", very few would be riding them. Looking at the poll results, it's hard to believe that 60% believe HD's are overpriced. Maybe the term "overpriced" has become interchangeable with "expensive"? Yes HDs are expensive, but they're not overpriced. My .02
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