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Old May 6, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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I never really gave it much thought till I came back from Iraq. Since then, I avoid all covers, road patches, etc.
 

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Old May 6, 2009 | 01:20 PM
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Exactly---I never fear my brakes. I fear the loss of traction. Too many people don't know how to ride---much less how to brake. Too many people don't know how to brake, much less in a corner and they certainly don't know how to panic brake. Drag braking is another tool in my box. This isn't drag braking but I have had to panic brake in a corner that was blocked. Might have been able to squeeze through but I judged the risk greater then just stopping. My next fear was who or what would enter the corner behind me before I could get clear. Lots of issue that day. The other side of that argument is that too many people panic in a hot corner and try to brake while lifting the bike back up to gain control, high side during a skid or just leave the road. Back to the manhole issue--they come off, they are slick sometimes, they attract nails and debris by being a low spot in the roadway. Manholes are to be avoided when possible.
Originally Posted by ictinike
Some of us have plenty of skills to handle braking while leaned over. I've been doing it forever. Drag braking deep into a corner keeps the front settled and helps with the turn in as the geometry is steeper. 'Course this isn't for everyone, but I used to roadrace so I'm used to it.
 
Old May 6, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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We have a couple of manhole covers around here that are 2 maybe 3 inches lower then the road. Hit one of those you're almost air born!
 
Old May 6, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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try to avoid anything in the roads- if you ride thru road construction avoid the temporary lane stripping tape its very slick when wet have seen 2 bikes go down from it
 
Old May 6, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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Avoid em if at all possible. I don't know how they teach the repair crews around here but, level and smooth must be two words they don't use.
 
Old May 6, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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Dont really mind the covers, it's the holes that get to me.
 
Old May 6, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ktm_scott
Then straighten out and brake while traveling straight in the context of the corner. Braking while cornering creates a mixture of kinetic and static friction that is a recipe for disaster. If you hit the corner too hot to do that, then my previous point about not being properly trained to ride is even stronger.
That might work for you flatlanders. Don't know about the corners? The only corners around here are at intersections, with either a stop sign or a redlight. We have curves, some MAJOR curves, some banked the opposite direction of the banks at the Bristol Motor Speedway. You go in too hot, you aint gonna straighten the bike up to brake. You better know how to ride that bike and countersteer, hunker down, drag them brakes and stay alive.
 
Old May 6, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by arcticharleyman
Oh, THOSE manhole covers. I thought you were talkin' 'bout sumptin' else.
yeah we call 'em kotex
 
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Around these parts the manhole covers are recessed about an inch to three inches, no set standard, that's so the snowplow blades don't snag 'em. One recently rebuilt street, main artery, has 41 covers in ten blocks. Makes for a good slalom course. I hope that street engineer is happy about that, oh yea they aren't line with each other either, and all in the same lane. YEE HAWWWW!
 
Old May 6, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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I even avoid them in my 18 wheeler. Saw a truck with the left front spindle ripped off one day. You betcha I go around them.
 



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