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There are very few people out there that keep their stock pipes, whether on Harley's, VTXs, Vulcans, Stars, or whatever else is out there. How many trucks and cars with Flowmasters are being ticketed??
This depends on where you live. Around here you will find all sorts of bikes with stock pipes. In my case I have 7 of them. The only bike with an aftermarket exhaust is the Harley.
By the way folks, I have a sticker on my helmet that says I ride a motorcycle and I vote. Remember to vote and get all these dumbasses out of office...
News flash, voting got use where we are now and the guy running this place, which includes the second dude and third chick in line have flat got us all headed for the toilet.
I always look at it like a speeding ticket. I know I was speeding, nobody put a gun to my head to make me do it; if I get caught, I pay the fine.
I guarentee that if you had a factory exhaust, and got the ticket, a lawyer would have a field day with a lawsuit.
If you have an aftermarket, non-street legal exhaust; whats the beef? You put it on the bike and chose to break the law. Man up & Pay up. If you can't pay, play by the rules.
I have a SE pipeset on mine, and if they get me, I know I'm guilty.
The "beef" is that our "government" is incrementally encroaching on our freedoms. Every time we lose a right we become a little less free,, if carried forward to its logical conclusion we will be indistinguishable from the North Koreans or other communist Utopias.
I am glad you all agree they have authority over you.
They do not follow their own arbitrary rules and they will change them to suit themselves.
You cannot win if you agree you are wrong.
For those of you who know you are wrong, I am sorry I cannot help you. Sell your bike and buy a prius. if you are cops, you know you are wrong, you just enjoy the benifits too much.
jamesw and mcrider, you must be on the state payroll. Pathetic.
The week before last I was ridin my bone stock Nightster and two throttle jockeys behind me did everything the could to weave thru traffic to ride along side of me. When that actually did, they decided that pulling up next to me and hitting the gas was a way to say Hello, to a follow rider. Unfortunately from stoplight to stoplight after that, they thought it was a race, so next time I laughed and said, "Okay you beat me" and they started up with the typical--Is that your sisters bike comments and "when you gonna change out the pipes, man?" crap...
.....long story short, Guess who got followed outta town by the cops...Not me!
I agree that if they're only targeting Harley's, they need to be challenged. On the other hand, as a general rule, the only bikes I've had ride by me that were loud enough to hurt my ears (while I was standing on the sidewalk) or rattle the windows in my house have been Harley's. It's the very few of us that insist on taking "loud pipes save lives" to the ultimate extreme without any concern for the rights of the general public to a little peace and quiet that are responsible for this kind of overreaction and I'm afraid it'll only get worse. The general public, and especially those who simply don't like motorcycles no matter how loud they are, aren't going to be particularly sympathetic to our point of view regardless of how logical our arguments are. Bottom line is, IMO, we've done this to ourselves and we're the one's most likely to correct the problem. The sad part is the amount of time and money that's going to needed to address all this in court. The only one's that'll really benefit will be the lawyers.
+1
I have a friend whose pipes are so loud no one will ride behind him. I wonder how the general public (non-Harley enthusiast) feels about his noise. If we put ourselves in the position of alienating the general public, they will retaliate and rightly so. What gives any of us (HD, sport bike, loud music, engine brakes, etc) the right to disturb the general public. My conversion from loud pipes to street legal pipes came last year when driving through a national park and I saw the impact my pipes, although subdued, had on the wild life there. I startled them. I came home, changed the pipes and ride legal these days.
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I think the crap in Grafton has slowed down as I have been through there at least 10 times this year and have never seen the police.
Glad you made it unmolested! I hope that it all calms down and they just mess with the obnoxious throttle jockeys but right now they are hitting anything with any sound! Time will tell!
I know in the future if I purchase a Harley I will keep it EPA compliant! Same for my Truck,Car and Boat....eventually I see this being a problem nation wide!
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