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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 08:39 AM
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Better chance of survival in a cage crash without seatbelts then in a bike crash without a helmet.

Yet everyone wears their seatbelts without complaining.

I remember back around 1968 when NYS made laws for a separate license for a MC and required helmets. Thought it was wrong then and still do now.

Motorcycles and helmets had been around a long time already and I felt there was no need to change the laws then and now.

However it is my choice to wear a helmet.

If one loves riding so much then it would make sense to wear a helmet so one would survive an accident to get back in the saddle again.
 
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If you are trying to make a case for the wearing of helmets or that there should be no helmet or seat belt laws, you have done neither very well.
 
Old Aug 8, 2010 | 09:25 AM
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I don't think seat belts are needed on bikes.......................what?
 
Old Aug 8, 2010 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by rhinotheking
I don't think seat belts are needed on bikes.......................what?
And it's illegal to wear helmets in cars (in most jurisdictions), even though head trauma is a leading cause of death during automobile accidents.


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and the point of your post is?
 
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 01:02 PM
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Sir, Your information is dangerously incorrect. I have been a personal injury lawyer for almost forty years. Seat belts. airbags, crushzones and other lifesaving improvements have made vehicles much safer for us and our families. Collisons that produced life altering injuries forty years ago now result in minimal, if any, injuries. Hasn't been good for my business, but I'm glad it's gone this way!
 
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Better chance of surviving if you don't crash at all. I don't bend mine.
 
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[QUOTE=32vld;7114351]Better chance of survival in a cage crash without seatbelts then in a bike crash without a helmet.

I'd have to see some research before I'd agree with you on that one. I do agree that it's incongruent to enforce seatbelt laws in any State that doesn't have a helmet law. I'm not advocating for helmet laws. Both should be your choice.

Lobbying efforts on the part of insurance companies passed the seatbelt laws in Indiana. Eventually, they'll probably make us all wear helmets too.
 
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Originally Posted by doghair
If you are trying to make a case for the wearing of helmets or that there should be no helmet or seat belt laws, you have done neither very well.
LOL my thoughts exactly.
 



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