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Old Sep 16, 2011 | 12:13 PM
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I am a Ride Like A Pro fan. That being said I started with Christine's Kickstart which is designed for beginners. http://www.ckskickstart.com
I am a firm believer in parking lot practice. You cannot get enough it especially when you are new. I disagree with Sarg. It is too soon to know whether you belong on a motorcycle. If you do not have a motorcycle purchase a cheap one on Craigslist or at a pawn shop. Make sure it runs but otherwise its only purpose is getting you to the bike of your dreams. Hang in there and PRACTICE!!! You can do this. Good luck!
 
Old Sep 16, 2011 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Other Sheep
Kinda failed? Is that what you meant to say? Kinda failed could translate to kinda got killed on a bike.

To those that are knocking the posts saying maybe he shouldn't ride I'd like to give some real life experience.

I have a son that is a master on the bike. Dirt or street. He takes to it like a fish to water.

I have another son that will never ride a bike. He just doesn't have the ability. He plays a piano like you wouldn't believe. He taught himself how to write music when he was 10. He learned sign language on his own. He's very intelligent but will never be a biker. It just isn't in his nature. And we did try. He won't do it. Can't do it.

Some have got it naturally. First son. A lot can learn it. I'm sure that describes many here on the forum. Some will not and should not ever throw a leg over a bike. Second son.

To the OP. Go back to your instructor and have a heart to heart talk with him about your abilities. He should be able to give you the best answer as to whether you should continue riding or not.
I respectfully disagree with your statement. It may be true your second son will not ride a motorcycle. I would never say never. The reason he may not have been able to learn is because he had no interest in doing so; not because he could not. It is apparent that the author of this thread wants to learn. Where there is a will there is a way. Too many people tell others what they cannot do with no basis for their opinion. When someone tells me I cannot do something it motives me to prove them wrong. Being a woman of color I was told way too many times I could not do something or another. I can tell you I've proven them wrong every time. Dreams can become reality with hard work, support, will and following the old adage that practice makes perfect. Let the author arrive at his own reality; not yours for him. Let's wait and see the outcome.
 
Old Sep 16, 2011 | 02:00 PM
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I'm an ex-MSF instructor and taught for 5 years actively - I passed a lot of students and failed a few. Motorcycling isn't for everybody but the course is a good way to find out. I have had students fail and shouldn't have and had students who knew how to take a test but shouldn't be riding. Nonetheless, the tests serve a purpose and is the best way to evaluate a student as long as the instructor doesn't rig the score! I've seen that happen too. Just like riders, there are instructors who don't belong out there (rare). Practice? You can practice the wrong technique and build bad habits quickly. It's best to take the class again under the guidance of a good instructor. Motorcycling is using fine motor skills and isn't easy for everyone; unfortunately the time constraints don't allow for individual learning paces and some will need to take the class again - it's cheap! I have had students come back and I would say about 99% of them passed and became way better riders because of it. FZ - gotta learn the PAUSE - a lot of power in that. You don't always have to release the clutch fully when doing very slow speeds. Clutch adjustments can determine early or late clutch engagement; you should be able to deal with either. These can be adjusted quickly on MSF bikes by the instructor.
 
Old Sep 16, 2011 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Other Sheep
Kinda failed? Is that what you meant to say? Kinda failed could translate to kinda got killed on a bike.

To those that are knocking the posts saying maybe he shouldn't ride I'd like to give some real life experience.

I have a son that is a master on the bike. Dirt or street. He takes to it like a fish to water.

I have another son that will never ride a bike. He just doesn't have the ability. He plays a piano like you wouldn't believe. He taught himself how to write music when he was 10. He learned sign language on his own. He's very intelligent but will never be a biker. It just isn't in his nature. And we did try. He won't do it. Can't do it.

Some have got it naturally. First son. A lot can learn it. I'm sure that describes many here on the forum. Some will not and should not ever throw a leg over a bike. Second son.

To the OP. Go back to your instructor and have a heart to heart talk with him about your abilities. He should be able to give you the best answer as to whether you should continue riding or not.
I've got real life examples for you. I play many instruments; piano, drums, bass guitar, sax, trombone, tuba...they did NOT come naturally to me. I did a whole lot of asking questions to people that are proficient and going and trying what they told me. Some guided and some not. Never an actual lesson, but now, I have no problems getting with a group and performing. I have even performed solo - it definitely took me a good while to learn, and even longer to get "good" but I did, and the OP can too.
 
Old Sep 16, 2011 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by terryrh
I've got real life examples for you. I play many instruments; piano, drums, bass guitar, sax, trombone, tuba...they did NOT come naturally to me. I did a whole lot of asking questions to people that are proficient and going and trying what they told me. Some guided and some not. Never an actual lesson, but now, I have no problems getting with a group and performing. I have even performed solo - it definitely took me a good while to learn, and even longer to get "good" but I did, and the OP can too.
Yeah! Do not let others define you. You set your goals and achieve them. As for Belliamharley the MSF course, while good, is not the only game in town. If $$$ is an issue find a former motorcycle instructor or a proficient rider and have that person help you. To keep from learning bad habits is why you should educate yourself through reading and viewing DVDs on the topic. When you are ready go back and take the test either through your state's motor vehicle course or through the MSF.Ride on, ride on.
 
Old Sep 16, 2011 | 10:46 PM
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Old Sep 17, 2011 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by wideglidebob
maybe its just not for you
What wideglidebob said....
 
Old Sep 18, 2011 | 09:42 PM
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For prictice I think a dirt bike isthe best method if available. More forgiving and hurts a lot less if you fall.
But if you pass the test and get your license, riding your bike is the easy part, the difficult part is avoiding the obsticles and the idiots trying to kill us.
 
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I said it before in this thread, and will say it now. Some people just aren't meant to ride a motorcycle. I am in complete agreement with Othersheep. The MSF course I took several years ago bears witness to this fact. Everyone passed, but there were three out of ten that had no business throwing a leg over a bike. No way, no how. And I have ridden with others on the road that fit that description as well.

Just wishing it so, does not make it so......

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Originally Posted by Shakeydeal
I said it before in this thread, and will say it now. Some people just aren't meant to ride a motorcycle. I am in complete agreement with Othersheep. The MSF course I took several years ago bears witness to this fact. Everyone passed, but there were three out of ten that had no business throwing a leg over a bike. No way, no how. And I have ridden with others on the road that fit that description as well.

Just wishing it so, does not make it so......

Shakey
Tell Keith Code that. In an interview he talked about some of those that you are speaking of that "shouldn't be on a motorcycle", but now they are amazing riders. The problem isn't that some shouldn't be on a motorcycle, just that everyone needs the proper training. Some get it quicker than others. Don't want to overstep my boundaries here, but I hope you don't teach your children that if they don't get it the first couple of times give it up cuz it ain't for you...just sayin
 



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