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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 12:47 PM
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Staring down a pissed off driver is just plain dumb, pulling guns just escalates a situation that you will lose. They have nothing to lose.

Here in the big city get the license call it in and go about your business.
 
Old Oct 10, 2011 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pbsdaddy
I just know the police have your statement and a description of him and the vehicle. And you did this, not be cause you were still pissed, but because you didn't want anyone else to have to go through what you went through.
I agree logical and smart thing to do. In the heat of the moment you did the right thing. On the flip side. If I had license to carry and conceal I would have all tools available when and if needed. In defending my loved ones or self. "It is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6".
 
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I agree logical and smart thing to do. In the heat of the moment you did the right thing. On the flip side. If I had license to carry and conceal I would have all tools available when and if needed. In defending my loved ones or self. "It is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6".
Tool is key word there for a lot reasons and you wouldn't like a few that come to mine when you carry a gun on a bike . I've heard all the rhetoric many times about how having that gun prevented this or that and seen that 10 + yr old video of the gal and the fast food shot out , these are all the standard battle cry of a group of people that just like the feeling of having a gun it's a power thing and your lying if say different . Gun makes you feel secure & confident doesn't it ? My chosen lifestyle has had me in as many situations that could have gone deadly and having the sense NOT carry a gun to most of them has saved lives , mine and several others .

Most of your come from a background where the most violent thing ever happened was maybe a highschool slapping match or the wife throwing something at you , media has shaped the fear factor for you not life in a bad neighborhood . You haven't learned what any 10 yr old inner city street rat knows and that's how to see trouble coming and to read people . That's what will save you life not the perceived security of a gun , if your not completely honest with yourself to the deepest level your a victim already it's just a matter of when . Self worth and confidence do not come in a plastic case and the number of rounds in a box of ammo so spare us all the example of how and why you should have one I have just as many real life examples of why not having one on a bike has saved a life .

Op had a chance run in with someone who would have pulled the trigger at the slightest perceived action against him , smart man sucked it up and everyone lived . One of the gun fanboys who aren't LEO or has ego problems carrying to boost it well the real fact is they would have one of two things , they would have pissed their pants in blind fear because the reality of having the gun and cant' use it or they would tried cowboy and got their dumbass shot end of story .

Quit living in fear your food will taste better .
 
Old Oct 10, 2011 | 01:43 PM
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Good point. And in your situation, I full understand the need to carry a weapon. I must say, it's a dam shame however it has come to this where one must carry a firearm. I don't know what the world has come to.
I believe your perspective is a bit backward. An armed public is a safe and polite one. I never tell people if or when I may or may not be armed. That simple "?" is what makes for a safe society. I want ALL of my neighbors to own and carry loaded firearms all of the time. I also want everyone within 500 miles of my neighborhood to know this. Keeps the scumbags out. They will go rob and loot the liberals.
 
Old Oct 10, 2011 | 02:01 PM
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If you pull a gun and shoot someone, you are going to jail and the cost of defending yourself will most likely brake you.
I guess two .45 bullets in your guts break you much more then the cost of defending myself. Just sayin'.
 
Old Oct 10, 2011 | 02:16 PM
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Those who insist on living in the past are destined to be consumed by the present.

It makes no difference when or where you grew up. Just because you say you were raised in a "bad" neighborhood doesn't prepare you for today's world. Gone are the days of stepping outside to settle differences with a fist fight. In today's world only those who are better prepared to handle situations will be survivors. That does not mean every confrontation ends in gunplay. That means keeping aware of your surroundings. Paying attention. Keeping your self-awareness at a high level.

This is not the same world as it was 10 years ago, much less 20-25 years ago. Don't be so foolish as to think that your experiences as a child growing up will prepare you for today's violent culture.

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Originally Posted by Throwback
Those who insist on living in the past are destined to be consumed by the present.

It makes no difference when or where you grew up. Just because you say you were raised in a "bad" neighborhood doesn't prepare you for today's world. Gone are the days of stepping outside to settle differences with a fist fight. In today's world only those who are better prepared to handle situations will be survivors. That does not mean every confrontation ends in gunplay. That means keeping aware of your surroundings. Paying attention. Keeping your self-awareness at a high level.

This is not the same world as it was 10 years ago, much less 20-25 years ago. Don't be so foolish as to think that your experiences as a child growing up will prepare you for today's violent culture.

Never bring a set of ***** to a gun fight
Maybe maybe not , you forget everything you learned in school ? You haven't learned anything new since then ? What you pick up as a kid is your foundation just like a house and you continue to learn everyday nobody stops time . Trick is learning to not put yourself in a position to be in over your head . Having a gun for the average guy is just like the life preservers they had on the Titanic lotta good it did them too smart ones got in the boats fug the rules .
 
Old Oct 10, 2011 | 02:32 PM
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I would bet the Mexican's gun was either stolen, and or not registered, and he had it in his console. Had you called the cops on him for road rage once you got away from him, he might think twice about pulling a gun on someone again.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker
Maybe maybe not , you forget everything you learned in school ? You haven't learned anything new since then ? What you pick up as a kid is your foundation just like a house and you continue to learn everyday nobody stops time . Trick is learning to not put yourself in a position to be in over your head . Having a gun for the average guy is just like the life preservers they had on the Titanic lotta good it did them too smart ones got in the boats fug the rules .
You are right. Avoiding trouble is a lesson learned over time.(Sometimes a painful lesson) Iu always have avoiding/leaving as the very first option. I have carried a gun for so long it is just second nature. I have never felt like it has an influence on my decision making. It is truley something to consider only after everything else fails.

I have completed several training classes aimed at self defense/survival tactics. I also have had countless hours of range time with a firearm. This does not make me an expert by any means. But it is an attempt to become educated in my choice to carry a firearm.

Remember, the crew of the Titanic never planned to use the life preservers.
 
Old Oct 10, 2011 | 03:54 PM
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My big issue is I've seen the personality change that comes over the average joe when a gun comes into the picture . Guy who knew better or just timid all of a sudden doing things or are in places and situations they wouldn't have been before and then you find out they are carrying , subconscious risk taking is what happens . Flagging ego's and a gun are not a good combo toss in the wanna be biker thing the deck is stacked for a bad day for somebody . I know not everyone is that way , I'll pac myself if the risk factor is going to be that high , you need to learn what is real risk and whats shadows and most haven't a clue .
 



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