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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 11:36 AM
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that goes back a very long time. was watching something the other night about how ghengis khan tried to invade japan and failed both times
I play the "hate the Japs" card probably more than I should, but I look like a card carrying ACLU lawyer compared to the hate I have heard from both the Japanese and Chinese when talking about one another. I don't know how many you guys know a lot of Asian people, but I do. TALK TO THEM. I'm not talking about a bunch of 3rd generation kids in college either. Talk to a real first generation, over 50 year old Japanese and Chinese people. These ****'s are so pissed at one another its scary.
 
Old Feb 24, 2012 | 01:25 PM
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This story is playing out on a UK bike forum today as well - trouble is this is Asia's century..
 
Old Feb 24, 2012 | 04:32 PM
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Yeah, Koreans and Chinese thin Japanese stink. But the Japanese were the most responsible in getting China out of making steel in their backyards with charcoal and actually producing quality stuff. That is all on Japan.

Funny country. They hate nuclear weapons and radiation but it is a stone lock that they have hundreds of nuclear-tipped missiles. All they have to do is attach wire A to part B and they are in the business. Every once in a while they set off a big missile that blows up half way through the flight to assure their neighbors that they are unable to build one.

Right... uh-huh...
 
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Originally Posted by bjewell
Yeah, Koreans and Chinese thin Japanese stink. But the Japanese were the most responsible in getting China out of making steel in their backyards with charcoal and actually producing quality stuff. That is all on Japan.

Funny country. They hate nuclear weapons and radiation but it is a stone lock that they have hundreds of nuclear-tipped missiles. All they have to do is attach wire A to part B and they are in the business. Every once in a while they set off a big missile that blows up half way through the flight to assure their neighbors that they are unable to build one.

Right... uh-huh...
That area frightens me when you get down to it , living under the Red Bear & the cold war was easy compared with the potential for mayhem that part of the world has now & growing worse daily .
 
Old Feb 24, 2012 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bikerlaw
I play the "hate the Japs" card probably more than I should, but I look like a card carrying ACLU lawyer compared to the hate I have heard from both the Japanese and Chinese when talking about one another. I don't know how many you guys know a lot of Asian people, but I do. TALK TO THEM. I'm not talking about a bunch of 3rd generation kids in college either. Talk to a real first generation, over 50 year old Japanese and Chinese people. These ****'s are so pissed at one another its scary.
Invasion of Nanking by Japs in 1937....http://www.tribo.org/nanking/
 

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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ElectraDave
Invasion of Nanking by Japs in 1937....http://www.tribo.org/nanking/
The rape of Nanking is just the tip of the iceberg when looking for reasons the Japanese are so hated in China, if not most of Asia.

There is no love loss for the Japanese in Korea either. The Japanese colonized the entire Korean peninsula, and ruled it with an iron fist from 1910 until the end of WWII. They used their women as ****** (comfort women), and tried to obliterate Korean culture by forcing everyone to take Japanese names, and only speak Japanese. You can guess what happened to any Koreans that disagreed with this policy.

The folks in the Philippines aren't too fond of the Japanese either. Back in the 80's when I was there in the Marines, I talked to some old timers that shared some stories of the Japanese occupation during WWII. Their brutality and savagery towards the locals were second to none. This one old guy told me of Japanese soldiers tossing babies in the air, and having his fellow soldiers catch them on the end of their rifle bayonets. I don't know if he was telling the truth, but judging how the Japanese treated our POWs (Bataan Death March), it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Back then, the winning of "hearts and minds" wasn't high on the Japanese priority list after invading a sovereign nation. The serfs either got with the program, or they were terminated with extreme prejudice.
 
Old Feb 25, 2012 | 05:59 AM
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About H-D stuff made in China for H-D dealers AND available in China for half the price:
http://www.myhdjacket.com/

Why would you buy a leather jacket at the stealership for a 500+ $ when you can get the same stuff for 200?

Some guys I know went to the dealership, try the jacket they wanted to have, note the size they need, and do order there...
 
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