Device to defeat Security System?
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From: Marina del Rey
This! Always! It is negligent in the extreme to just walk away from a bike w/o locking ignition and forks, thinking a fob is all you need. Same goes for just walking away, thinking insurance is all you need. After doing all you can to protect your bike, if pro's get it, well, that's what insurance is for.
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From: anacoco, la
i've heard a lot of people say this, but not really back it up with anything other than operator error. wait, i take that back, a couple of instances of rf interference requiring you to either push the bike around a bit, or use the manual override i have heard of.
sure, if you leave your fob in the garage and ride a full tank of gas away from the house and then stop to fill up, shut off the bike, and then realize when you go to start it that your fob is 200 miles away. then you also realize that you never set the code, or bothered to learn how to use it. yeah, you're gonna have a bad day. and it's all hd's fault.
not having your fob with you does not cause the engine to shut off. it only prevents it from starting.
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From: in a trailer next to a ditch in South Florida
The type of system used in that European report is not the same system used by Harley. The Harley fob only reacts or responds to an interrogation from the security system located in the bike. It must be very close to the bike as it is a very short-range system
In other words, the fob does nothing until the operator moves the bike or tries to start the engine.
In other words, the fob does nothing until the operator moves the bike or tries to start the engine.
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From: Mass.
i've heard a lot of people say this, but not really back it up with anything other than operator error. wait, i take that back, a couple of instances of rf interference requiring you to either push the bike around a bit, or use the manual override i have heard of.
sure, if you leave your fob in the garage and ride a full tank of gas away from the house and then stop to fill up, shut off the bike, and then realize when you go to start it that your fob is 200 miles away. then you also realize that you never set the code, or bothered to learn how to use it. yeah, you're gonna have a bad day. and it's all hd's fault.
not having your fob with you does not cause the engine to shut off. it only prevents it from starting.
sure, if you leave your fob in the garage and ride a full tank of gas away from the house and then stop to fill up, shut off the bike, and then realize when you go to start it that your fob is 200 miles away. then you also realize that you never set the code, or bothered to learn how to use it. yeah, you're gonna have a bad day. and it's all hd's fault.
not having your fob with you does not cause the engine to shut off. it only prevents it from starting.
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From: east cen.miss
[QUOTE=Toypuller;9486356]Have you changed the factory set override code?
They all come the same, I believe. You have to go through the process of re-entering your own.
Could be the kid knew the factory preset.
Or the dude was full of ****
I agree
They all come the same, I believe. You have to go through the process of re-entering your own.
Could be the kid knew the factory preset.
Or the dude was full of ****
I agree
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From: Las Vegas, NV
The type of system used in that European report is not the same system used by Harley. The Harley fob only reacts or responds to an interrogation from the security system located in the bike. It must be very close to the bike as it is a very short-range system
In other words, the fob does nothing until the operator moves the bike or tries to start the engine.
In other words, the fob does nothing until the operator moves the bike or tries to start the engine.
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From: anacoco, la
Exactly! What they have effectively done with a pair of antennas is to increase the '20ft range of the fob to a 1/4 mile or farther. With this setup, your bike would not know if the fob was right next to it or you were inside a restaurant a few football fields away eating dinner.
what he is saying is that the original range is not 20'. not even close. more like 3', if you're lucky. dude would have to be standing right next to you for it to work. and i think i would notice if some guy with an antenna came up and stood right on me.
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From: Keizer, Oregon
As stated already, the security system is no reason to get complacent. Always lock the ignition when you are away from your bike, or don't be surprised if it is gone or battery dead when you get back.
I don't like it but some people are ignorant about not touching someone's bike or there are also the ones that try to steal it. There are also those idiots in various stages between those mentioned.
I don't like it but some people are ignorant about not touching someone's bike or there are also the ones that try to steal it. There are also those idiots in various stages between those mentioned.
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From: Las Vegas, NV
I agree, they were not using Harley fob's. But I doubt the technology is much different...
"The researchers tested a few scenarios. An attacker could watch a parking lot and have an accomplice watch as car owners as entered a nearby store. The accomplice would only need to be within eight meters of the targeted owner's key fob, making it easy to avoid arousing suspicion. In another scenario, a car owner might leave a car key on a table near a window. An antenna placed outside the house was able to communicate with the key, allowing the researchers then to start the car parked out front and drive away"
Last edited by HarleyRanger; Mar 6, 2012 at 04:05 PM.