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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 03:27 PM
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In my 2.0, stock compression is 8.8:1... It's not a purpose built track but rather a daily driver. Granted when we build the bottom end we bump up the compression to 9:1 for a daily driver car that we can throw more boost at it, or bump it up to a 10:1 when making it a fully committed track car knowing it'll never see 91 octane...

In all honesty, all someone has to do is fill a tank full in a bike, throw it on the dyno, and tune for optimal AFR's. Once on the dyno we can figure out if we're running out of fuel or what not.

I would love to do it but I'm broke...

Here's my daily driver with 86k on the oddom and my dyno graph...






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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 03:34 PM
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Heh I knew as soon as you said 2.0, you were driving an EVO. I own a 2011 STi myself but don't have E85 readily accessible.

Fuel economy isn't really an issue for some folks, My car probably gets maybe 30 miles more than my bike per tank. I could care less about fuel economy myself.

I'm not sure how harley motors hold up to adding power, I know my STi needs a built engine to push 400+hp safely. But I would think there shouldn't be much upgrading for the power increase .. just takes someone to try it heh.
 

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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 03:49 PM
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Yeah, I understand for you guys to make power you need upgrade your glass rods and pistons. We on he other hand can handle 500hp/500tq on all stock internals...

Using E85 is just something to think out of the box about...
 
Old Dec 23, 2012 | 05:24 PM
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i dont recall you mentioning a boosted motor in your earlier posts. That changes everything!!! A turbo or supercharged motor will be able to run enough additional boost on e85 to make a decent amount of additional power. But i still stand by my earlier comments when it comes to a normally aspirated motor.
 
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Get enough compression in there, and a little bit more corn in the fuel, and you might be able to get pop corn out of the exhaust
 
Old Dec 23, 2012 | 05:41 PM
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I agree with some of the other post, you would first have to make E-85 more plentiful, I can only think of 2 stations in my area that sell it, and the price difference is only about 10%, so it seems not worth the effort. Tell me if I'm missing something.
 
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Hp in the motor is from BTU's from the fuel. Alcohol has less BTU's so an engine to make more hp from it must have substantially larger injectors than those for gasoline only.

High content alcohol fuel washes oil off of the cylinder walls which results in a much shorter engine life. Alcohol is very corrosive to most metals also.

Any engine is capable of making more hp with gasoline than alcohol with the same degree of tune.

Alcohol is a pathetic source of power in an internal combustion engine.
 
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