Without getting all defensive....
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That is exactly what I am trying to do. You worked for them You know what I am referring to. You are the kind of person who I look to for real answers to real issues.
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Research and learn BEFORE I buy. I know that is a new concept with some of ya all. I Ask questions, get confirmations, and hope the defenders and Kool-Aid drinkers stay out of my threads. The last part does not happen much,. They really should have their own section where the Hard core Harleyholics can bow and praise the brand where no one is allowed to question the MOCO I promise I will stay out of that section.
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From: Lawrenceville, Ga.
Well, I spent all this time reading through this thread, I guess I figure I can spend another moment and collect my thoughts...
OP is full of crap. Period. End of story. That's what I think. You are so smart, go start your own motorcycle company and STFU.
There, I said it.
OP is full of crap. Period. End of story. That's what I think. You are so smart, go start your own motorcycle company and STFU.
There, I said it.
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good post midget
my bike is 00 , just clicked over 100,000 it still runs strong,
i have installed 95 " and andrews 36 cams at 76k just as well i did, tensioners were hanging on literaly buy a thread
two occasions i have had were bike wouldnt start, first time ;dead battery
second time; compensator nut had come totaly loose(my fault i replaced inner primary gasket 1 year prior and on reflection i didnt loctite nut when i torqued it)
i have a SE tensioner upgrade kit to go in at some stage
other then that perfect
if a kool aid drinker is a harley enthusiast then i am one, but not stupid enough to think there brilliantly engineered pieces of machinery, if you want that buy german or japanese not american, but there solid and strong, parts generaly dont change and easy to maintain yourself
i think your points are valid, to take seven years to address tensioner issues is not good
good luck in your quest, i too love the 02/07 road king customs
my bike is 00 , just clicked over 100,000 it still runs strong,
i have installed 95 " and andrews 36 cams at 76k just as well i did, tensioners were hanging on literaly buy a thread
two occasions i have had were bike wouldnt start, first time ;dead battery
second time; compensator nut had come totaly loose(my fault i replaced inner primary gasket 1 year prior and on reflection i didnt loctite nut when i torqued it)
i have a SE tensioner upgrade kit to go in at some stage
other then that perfect
if a kool aid drinker is a harley enthusiast then i am one, but not stupid enough to think there brilliantly engineered pieces of machinery, if you want that buy german or japanese not american, but there solid and strong, parts generaly dont change and easy to maintain yourself
i think your points are valid, to take seven years to address tensioner issues is not good
good luck in your quest, i too love the 02/07 road king customs
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Yeah Metric 1300 Yamaha now.
I can ride a Harley again because I don't put the miles on I used to since moving east. Want a Road King Custom 02-07 That is the only HD the works for me.
Had a lot of bikes over the years from KZ550- GL1000 FXRC, CB900C, FJR1300, VT1100, Yamaha 1300 now. ..Depending on where I live I bought the bike for the area. Out West it was the FJR and VT1100s after the HD was sold. Moved east bought the 1300.
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I can ride a Harley again because I don't put the miles on I used to since moving east. Want a Road King Custom 02-07 That is the only HD the works for me.
Had a lot of bikes over the years from KZ550- GL1000 FXRC, CB900C, FJR1300, VT1100, Yamaha 1300 now. ..Depending on where I live I bought the bike for the area. Out West it was the FJR and VT1100s after the HD was sold. Moved east bought the 1300.
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The only reason you're interested in buying a Harley is....."It's what's popular and the thing to own in the place you live"
We've got a guy like you that hangs with us. He's BMW thru and thru. Never shoulda' bought a Harley (he's on his 5th one) and the only reason he did was to "fit in". Not much of a reason, in my opinion.
I appalude your "research"......but I believe you are making this into much more than it really is....or should I say....really...what is it??...
Sure there a ton of Harleys out there with low miles......GUESS WHAT.....There are a ton of any brand of cruiser/touring bike you can name out there with low miles. I certainly don't see that Harley has a lock on that title.
As for maintenance issues, if you believe for a second that the other manufactures don't have issues, you are naive.....and many of the issues with non HD iron are also long term issues that should have been resolved long ago....
Also, lets look at the fact that many maintenance issues are self induced. By that I am saying, if people screwed with their Toyota and Honda as much as they do with their Harleys, then Toyota and Honda automobiles would have more "issues" too.
And as a parting thought......Should you EVER actually buy a Harley Davidson Motorcycle....you will find a dealer network that covers the USA so well that you are never really a long way from one, should you need their services.
NONE of the other motorcycle manufactures can even come close to the coverage that Harley has.
Good luck with your search for perfection.
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Perhaps he means that he buys a bike that best fits the types of riding available in the area.
If I lived in the Smokies and visited Deals Gap on a regualr basis a cruiser would be at the bottom of my list as far as bikes.
If I lived near the desert a good dual-sport would be my ride of choice.
I live in the midwest and the roads are primarily straight and flat; a cruiser is a good choice here.
Maybe it's a "right tool for the job" thing and not a "what's everyone else riding" thing.
I could be wrong though, I don't know this guy from Adam.
To the OP:
I do applaud your research as I tend to do the same thing before major purchaces. Also, calling out the blidly loyal "Kool-Aid" drinkers is commendable. They're allowing Harely to go down the exact same path GM followed for a number of years and only just recently was snapped out of (hopefully) by a near bankruptcy.
However, your defense of your vehicle choices and your apparent loyalty towards Japanese makes (at least for car/trucks) does make you sound a bit hypicritcal. The Japanese have their fair share of problems (especially as of late) and are FAR cry from being flawless motoring marvals. Neither of the vehicles you mentioned have enough miles on them for me to consider them proven "utterly reliable". Of my 3 vehicles (2 Saturns and a Ford) the lowest mileage one has 150k and some change and the highest is at 235k and climbing; all are reliable enough to cross the country with tomorrow. The Japanese definately DO NOT have a lock on "reliability" and a little research would clearly show that.
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Just a thought:
Perhaps he means that he buys a bike that best fits the types of riding available in the area.
If I lived in the Smokies and visited Deals Gap on a regualr basis a cruiser would be at the bottom of my list as far as bikes.
If I lived near the desert a good dual-sport would be my ride of choice.
I live in the midwest and the roads are primarily straight and flat; a cruiser is a good choice here.
Maybe it's a "right tool for the job" thing and not a "what's everyone else riding" thing.
I could be wrong though, I don't know this guy from Adam.
To the OP:
I do applaud your research as I tend to do the same thing before major purchaces. Also, calling out the blidly loyal "Kool-Aid" drinkers is commendable. They're allowing Harely to go down the exact same path GM followed for a number of years and only just recently was snapped out of (hopefully) by a near bankruptcy.
However, your defense of your vehicle choices and your apparent loyalty towards Japanese makes (at least for car/trucks) does make you sound a bit hypicritcal. The Japanese have their fair share of problems (especially as of late) and are FAR cry from being flawless motoring marvals. Neither of the vehicles you mentioned have enough miles on them for me to consider them proven "utterly reliable". Of my 3 vehicles (2 Saturns and a Ford) the lowest mileage one has 150k and some change and the highest is at 235k and climbing; all are reliable enough to cross the country with tomorrow. The Japanese definately DO NOT have a lock on "reliability" and a little research would clearly show that.
Perhaps he means that he buys a bike that best fits the types of riding available in the area.
If I lived in the Smokies and visited Deals Gap on a regualr basis a cruiser would be at the bottom of my list as far as bikes.
If I lived near the desert a good dual-sport would be my ride of choice.
I live in the midwest and the roads are primarily straight and flat; a cruiser is a good choice here.
Maybe it's a "right tool for the job" thing and not a "what's everyone else riding" thing.
I could be wrong though, I don't know this guy from Adam.
To the OP:
I do applaud your research as I tend to do the same thing before major purchaces. Also, calling out the blidly loyal "Kool-Aid" drinkers is commendable. They're allowing Harely to go down the exact same path GM followed for a number of years and only just recently was snapped out of (hopefully) by a near bankruptcy.
However, your defense of your vehicle choices and your apparent loyalty towards Japanese makes (at least for car/trucks) does make you sound a bit hypicritcal. The Japanese have their fair share of problems (especially as of late) and are FAR cry from being flawless motoring marvals. Neither of the vehicles you mentioned have enough miles on them for me to consider them proven "utterly reliable". Of my 3 vehicles (2 Saturns and a Ford) the lowest mileage one has 150k and some change and the highest is at 235k and climbing; all are reliable enough to cross the country with tomorrow. The Japanese definately DO NOT have a lock on "reliability" and a little research would clearly show that.
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Just a thought:
Perhaps he means that he buys a bike that best fits the types of riding available in the area.
If I lived in the Smokies and visited Deals Gap on a regualr basis a cruiser would be at the bottom of my list as far as bikes.
If I lived near the desert a good dual-sport would be my ride of choice.
I live in the midwest and the roads are primarily straight and flat; a cruiser is a good choice here.
Maybe it's a "right tool for the job" thing and not a "what's everyone else riding" thing.
I could be wrong though, I don't know this guy from Adam.
To the OP:
I do applaud your research as I tend to do the same thing before major purchaces. Also, calling out the blidly loyal "Kool-Aid" drinkers is commendable. They're allowing Harely to go down the exact same path GM followed for a number of years and only just recently was snapped out of (hopefully) by a near bankruptcy.
However, your defense of your vehicle choices and your apparent loyalty towards Japanese makes (at least for car/trucks) does make you sound a bit hypicritcal. The Japanese have their fair share of problems (especially as of late) and are FAR cry from being flawless motoring marvals. Neither of the vehicles you mentioned have enough miles on them for me to consider them proven "utterly reliable". Of my 3 vehicles (2 Saturns and a Ford) the lowest mileage one has 150k and some change and the highest is at 235k and climbing; all are reliable enough to cross the country with tomorrow. The Japanese definately DO NOT have a lock on "reliability" and a little research would clearly show that.
Perhaps he means that he buys a bike that best fits the types of riding available in the area.
If I lived in the Smokies and visited Deals Gap on a regualr basis a cruiser would be at the bottom of my list as far as bikes.
If I lived near the desert a good dual-sport would be my ride of choice.
I live in the midwest and the roads are primarily straight and flat; a cruiser is a good choice here.
Maybe it's a "right tool for the job" thing and not a "what's everyone else riding" thing.
I could be wrong though, I don't know this guy from Adam.
To the OP:
I do applaud your research as I tend to do the same thing before major purchaces. Also, calling out the blidly loyal "Kool-Aid" drinkers is commendable. They're allowing Harely to go down the exact same path GM followed for a number of years and only just recently was snapped out of (hopefully) by a near bankruptcy.
However, your defense of your vehicle choices and your apparent loyalty towards Japanese makes (at least for car/trucks) does make you sound a bit hypicritcal. The Japanese have their fair share of problems (especially as of late) and are FAR cry from being flawless motoring marvals. Neither of the vehicles you mentioned have enough miles on them for me to consider them proven "utterly reliable". Of my 3 vehicles (2 Saturns and a Ford) the lowest mileage one has 150k and some change and the highest is at 235k and climbing; all are reliable enough to cross the country with tomorrow. The Japanese definately DO NOT have a lock on "reliability" and a little research would clearly show that.
Simple as that/
I have no patience for Harleyholics. Nor they for me. They are liking the boots of the MOCO and accepting mediocrity because they like wrenching?. Making excuses and putting up with crap like loosened crank run out specs with each release.Crank runout in 2012 on a $20K bike really? New bikes are leaking now. Back to the future? Stiggy makes my point better.
I know I can buy another Yamaha. but since I put low miles on a bike i can buy the Harley again and fully intend to.But I ain't drinking the Kool-Aid. Its just another motorcycling experience for a year or three/
As far as Toyota specifically. They have never let me down. I stick with them because of that and that they replaced head gaskets when they did not have to. That said for the wife We are going on here third RAV 4. Always used two year old vehicles and keep them to 90K. If I can run a vehicle to 90K without any issues its good enough. Never could do that with the Explorers I had or Rangers. Alwasy somthing small going. The V6 Explorer/Ranger were serial pingers
Me I ride more then I drive so I am more open minded about my next vehicle. But my 08 Taco has 33K lol I think I could keep it for life if I wanted to trouble free. I put less miles on it than the bike.
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