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I have a concealed carry permit and carry all the time. But you don't need a permit to open carry here. If you're 21, an American citizen, and have no felonies, you can open carry. Don't even have to be a resident. So Commiefornians, come on over and ride with your firearm completely exposed. It's good for the soul.
OC spray is another option. Not the Autozone or Wal-mart stuff but good law enforcement/military grade. For example, and not admitting I carry this, First Defense MK-4 cannister. Its 0.18% Capsaicinoid, seriously strong enough to incapacitate most, and non-toxic food grade contents so you can spray it on your tacos if you are short on hot sauce. Most people you encounter will likely never have been sprayed before. I can assure you it isn't pleasant. Best is that it is legal to carry without a permit. Some CCH permits do not transfer from state to state.
Although, if I were to CC, my weapon of choice would be a 45 Colt 1991A1 Compact (tuned-up a bit) and a few mags of pre-ban Black-Talons or Hydra-Shock in a shoulder holster; hard to draw quickly from waistband with a lot of leather and riding gear like bosnmate pointed out.
Not trying to start a pissing match with you bensonjv, but I want to clear things up for you and others who may still think this. Black Talons were never banned and are not illegal to carry. Smith & Wesson pulled them due to all the bad press they were getting with the media calling them "Cop Killers" and all. You can get the same bullets from other manufactures, they just don't call them Black Talons. In fact, the Hornady TAP FPD rounds I carry are the exact same bullet.
The ONLY rounds that are illegal to purchase, own or carry are teflon coated rounds.
OC spray is another option. Not the Autozone or Wal-mart stuff but good law enforcement/military grade. For example, and not admitting I carry this, First Defense MK-4 cannister. Its 0.18% Capsaicinoid, seriously strong enough to incapacitate most, and non-toxic food grade contents so you can spray it on your tacos if you are short on hot sauce.
Be careful with that stuff in brown bear country. It has been determined that some Alaska Grizz like their food extra spicy.
riding while armed here in Ohio is an interesting experience, because if it is on your body in a holster, it "Must be in plain sight". I've gotten nothing but smiles, waves, and thumbs up. That law will be gone 7 days though.
And what if you get a bit jittered some day and use it?
How does time inside feel.
Not sure why anyone wants or needs to carry
A bit jittered? You mean like just having a bad day in general?
If someone has a bad day... and they then feel they have the NEED to pull their gun on someone... odds are they have been in trouble with LEOs before... if that is the case... they would not be able to get a CCW for the most part.
It not about wants or needs... it is about a crazy world that we all live in. If I am given the choice to protect myself and my family I am going to do it. Thankfully I live somewhere that allows me the opportunity to carry a firearm for protection.
Please keep in mind that the idea of the CCW is to allow people to take a defensive posture not an offensive one. I find it ammusing that so many people that are against concealed carry assume that everyone that is carrying a pistol is going to slap leather every time they see someone spit on a sidewalk.
If the local gang bagers (or whatever you have in your area) can carry illegally and not go to jail I should be allowed to carry legally to protect myself.
I tell people this all the time, you may never see my gun in public... But when you do... It will be firing a double tap when you notice it. No reason to pull it out unless someones life is in danger.
Down here they even advise us not to get involved in someone else's problems. You may think you are helping the victim but if you don't know the whole story stay out of it. And that's what I do. I have my weapon to protect myself and my family.
Double tap to the chest... One to the head. That is how I practice when I am at the range.
When we took the CCW class the guy asked us to tell him what we thought was "excessive." I jokingly said, "Changing magazines." He actually told me that in NC we are allowed to empty as many rounds as we need to in order to feel safe.... Now you know why I carry an extra mag. =)
OC spray is another option. Not the Autozone or Wal-mart stuff but good law enforcement/military grade. For example, and not admitting I carry this, First Defense MK-4 cannister. Its 0.18% Capsaicinoid, seriously strong enough to incapacitate most, and non-toxic food grade contents so you can spray it on your tacos if you are short on hot sauce. Most people you encounter will likely never have been sprayed before. I can assure you it isn't pleasant. Best is that it is legal to carry without a permit. Some CCH permits do not transfer from state to state.
Although, if I were to CC, my weapon of choice would be a 45 Colt 1991A1 Compact (tuned-up a bit) and a few mags of pre-ban Black-Talons or Hydra-Shock in a shoulder holster; hard to draw quickly from waistband with a lot of leather and riding gear like bosnmate pointed out.
Not trying to start a pissing match with you bensonjv, but I want to clear things up for you and others who may still think this. Black Talons were never banned and are not illegal to carry. Smith & Wesson pulled them due to all the bad press they were getting with the media calling them "Cop Killers" and all. You can get the same bullets from other manufactures, they just don't call them Black Talons. In fact, the Hornady TAP FPD rounds I carry are the exact same bullet.
The ONLY rounds that are illegal to purchase, own or carry are teflon coated rounds.
Flame suit on now.
Rick
LOL... That was my recollection as well but I wasn't going to say it. =) I do think some local goverments had prevented the SALE of them... but you could still HAVE them. And it didn't matter... they came out with the exact same bullet in the standard copper jacket. Personally I could care less about the color of the jacket as long as it goes down range to target.
OC spray is another option. Not the Autozone or Wal-mart stuff but good law enforcement/military grade. For example, and not admitting I carry this, First Defense MK-4 cannister. Its 0.18% Capsaicinoid, seriously strong enough to incapacitate most, and non-toxic food grade contents so you can spray it on your tacos if you are short on hot sauce. Most people you encounter will likely never have been sprayed before. I can assure you it isn't pleasant. Best is that it is legal to carry without a permit. Some CCH permits do not transfer from state to state.
Although, if I were to CC, my weapon of choice would be a 45 Colt 1991A1 Compact (tuned-up a bit) and a few mags of pre-ban Black-Talons or Hydra-Shock in a shoulder holster; hard to draw quickly from waistband with a lot of leather and riding gear like bosnmate pointed out.
Not trying to start a pissing match with you bensonjv, but I want to clear things up for you and others who may still think this. Black Talons were never banned and are not illegal to carry. Smith & Wesson pulled them due to all the bad press they were getting with the media calling them "Cop Killers" and all. You can get the same bullets from other manufactures, they just don't call them Black Talons. In fact, the Hornady TAP FPD rounds I carry are the exact same bullet.
The ONLY rounds that are illegal to purchase, own or carry are teflon coated rounds.
Flame suit on now.
Rick
...not totally sure, but I think ya forget to include the 5.7 round for FN in the SS190 variant.
As for concealed carry, I can't..here in NY, I'm not related to either Rockefeller or Guiliani, nor have Ifound a holster mfg that'll let me comfortably pack my G-3.
i never really thought this thread would be so popular. thanks for all the feedback... i never really wanted to start a pissing match.... This was a question Who what and where do you carry not if you should or should not...
maybe this thread should go into the politics section
And what if you get a bit jittered some day and use it?
How does time inside feel.
Not sure why anyone wants or needs to carry
wait till someone has a gun at your or your families head holding you at gunpoint and your gonna wish the guy across the way was carring if you were not. You will soon realize why ANYONE would need it.
Hey Vegas - I see your point but in my 52 years on this earth I don't know anyone (personally) who's had a gun pulled on them or been held up. Hear plenty of that $hit going on in Toronto though - lots of gangs in certain areas.
If someone did have a gun at the head of one of my family I would do my best to talk my way out - than of course I'd want the bastard dead.
I can see both sides but I've been fortunate enough not to need one so far.
(Here in CanadaI'd be strung up anyway)
Stay safe -
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