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Feb 19, 2014 | 07:19 PM

#31

2kids3pets

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From: River City Western Canada

Feb 19, 2014 | 07:20 PM

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Highlux

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Because one involves living a nice decent life, respecting your fellow human beings. Having kids, being involved with them. Careers. Home ownership. American dream.

The other involves....drugs. violence. stupidity. criminal records. shady characters. distrust. gang mentality. (try and box one biker at a bar)

Don't let tv fool you. Meth head 1% types follow no rules but there own. They would kill a brother if it were rewarding enough and they knew they wouldn't get caught. I bet they love when some fool yuppie comes hanging around and they use them and **** them out of everything they can then abandon them.

Basically like people in prison...except on motorcycles.

Feb 19, 2014 | 08:30 PM

#33

Huskerjim

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From: 8th wonder FLORIDA

Outlaw clubs are exactly what they are called outlaw. U want to break the law u follow them you are a law abiding citizen think about your actions.

Feb 19, 2014 | 08:44 PM

#34

sjef

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From: South Jersey

Quote:

Originally Posted by WvDragon

If a outlaw motorcycle club/member is following the rules that were laid down for them by others many years ago how are they different than those that follow the laws? To me its giving up one set of rules to follow a different set of rules.

I am not trying to flame or upset anyone in the MC community or any riders anywhere this is just a question that has been on my mind for a while. There are no MC's in the area I live in that I could have asked this to, or I would have found someone here that could answer this for me already.

If this has been talked about on these forums before I couldn't find it.

Why do you even care? Worry about yourself, it's none of your business what rules others follow.

Feb 20, 2014 | 07:48 AM

#35

HAOLE

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From: ARMY GYPSY IN HOUSTON

"Outlaw Clubs" and "Motorcyle Gangs" are a sales pitch by Government agencies and LEO entities to scare sheeple into justifying extravagant funding into their departments in the guise of defending the public against the boogie man. (and boost Gangland ratings...lol).

Just as they use other labels like religious extremist and activist to justify burninng out people from their homes and no knock warrants. Like Ruby Ridge, Waco, Virginia et al.

I have yet to see an MG cube on any cut

The public's money would be better spent on actions against violent street gangs, they threaten the public more than any MC ever has.

Haole

Last edited by HAOLE; Feb 20, 2014 at 07:50 AM.

Feb 20, 2014 | 07:56 AM

#36

atrox88

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Originally Posted by SPRINGER

Interesting first post, a debate about rules. If you want to know the real truth, in your travels, if you run across an outlaw motorcycle club, maybe you should flag them down and ask them, I am sure they will educate you in a way that will satisfy your interest.

Well hello there my brother Springer. How have you been?

Feb 20, 2014 | 08:16 AM

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oct1949

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From: 40 miles Northeast of Indy..

Quote:

Originally Posted by WvDragon

1st, are you talk old club laws or Laws of the Land (like the Gov laws) ??

If you are talking the Government laws, then those are enforceable by real law officers (LEO's-State Police-FBI- Etc,) and the Outlaw Laws by who ever presides over the club.

Feb 20, 2014 | 12:59 PM

#38

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Originally Posted by WvDragon

I understand your point, but to me to be a outlaw would be to throw away everyones rules and live by a personal code. Even if its I do not like you rules so i am gonna live by someone other than your rules. You are still following rules.

This was the definition i got from a dictionary:
a person who refuses to be governed by the established rules or practices of any group; rebel; nonconformist

So by this if you give in and follows the rules of a group you are no longer a outlaw.

Based on what you say, this is just a debate on semantics and it is possibly a debate that could go on forever without any really answer or solution.

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