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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 07:14 PM
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Chasing down an intermittent clatter. If I raise the pushrod tubes, will much oil spit out if I run the motor for a few seconds, long enough to check for a loose/collapsed lifter?
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Old Aug 24, 2016 | 09:15 AM
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How many miles? What rpm does the clatter occur? When does it occur - acceleration, cruising, slowing down. After the bike sits for several days, a week or more, do the lifters make any noise for a second or two at initial startup? Is noise from front or rear cylinder?

Given your question, you may want to have some one look at it for you.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2016 | 11:20 AM
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Given your question, you may want to have some one look at it for you.
That's good advice.

When an engine is running it is essentially smothering everything inside it with oil. Opening up any cover is likely to get you covered in oil - it may not be much in quantity, but oil goes a long way when makiing a mess! I wouldn't disturb a pushrod tube as I am not sure what good that will do.
 
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Bike has 13k. Noise just started 2-3 weeks ago. Right at 1st start up of day. Does it at idle and when riding. It goes away after abut 5 min of running, and then never again rest of day. Then back again next day. I original thought it was coming from primary case, chain tensioner not yet advanced to next step as it sounds tingy, just like when the exhaust is cooling off and the shields are popping. My thinking was chain was hitting inside of primary case. But since it quits, I tossed that idea. Next thought was lifter bleeding down and taking that long to pump up. I just thought if I could raise up the lower push rod tube 1 at a time, I could feel the suspect lifter if there was one. Bike would just be ran a few seconds when cold as that's when it makes this noise. It's not normal ticking. It has not done it last couple days though. Oil has been changed on schedule. I bought the Rockouts for the see G machine noise and thinking doing lifters, adj push rods when I do those, but wanted to make sure a lifter is bleeding down over night. I understand bike is under warranty, but if lifter is bad, rather go with S&S and shoot for making motor even quieter. I've done tons of rebuilds of autos and boat motors over the yrs, including blower motors, just never had a HD apart before, thus the question.
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Added.... Have trouble isolating where the noise is really coming from do to all the ticks. Tried watching tons of YT videos looking for clues on different tones. A lifter sounds more likely to me for a tick that comes and goes given the characteristics of clicking and also that the stock lifters don't get good reviews here. Not worth a warrenty claim to me if I can make it better if this turns out to be the problem
 

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It does sound like a lifter bleeding down if I am understanding you correctly. I read that some have taken their bike in for warranty work and paid the extra money for the other brand of lifters. ie S&S Labor free as covered under warranty. Worth looking into


Lifters can get debris inside which will cause them to bleed down. Sometimes, usually not though, they will "fix" themselves.

Either ride it more and see if the noise went away. Or, take it to the dealer.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 01:18 AM
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Harbor Freight has a mechanic's stethoscope for cheap that works really well. there's a metal stick that contacts a diaphragm and that goes into a pair of earpieces. You hold the stick on different parts of the engine to hear where the noise is loudest and most distinct. Goes a long ways to figuring out weird taps and knocks.
 
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