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Sep 29, 2016 | 01:55 AM

#11

gusotto

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From: Eastern Iowa

My o-rings always looked good.
Reused a number of times.

Then after doing an oil change with that "good looking" o-ring, I developed a slight leak.
Drips under the bike when parked.

I changed the o-ring and the drips stopped!
Now I change the o-rings anyway.

That "bad" o-ring still looked good when I removed it but it was still a bother to replace.
Waited until bike was cold. (Sat overnight.)
With new o-ring ready to go in, I did a quick replacement when I removed the plug.
Clean pan underneath to catch the small amount of oil.
The just added that small amount of oil when I was done.

Now I use new o-rings.
They're cheap.

Sep 29, 2016 | 06:58 AM

#12

Back-n-Black

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From: Texas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Davis

Did an online search for a 2017 service manual. Nothing came up anywhere. Can't even find it at the MOCO's website.

I have the 2016 FSM that I need....

Sep 29, 2016 | 07:07 AM

#13

lionsm13

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From: Western South Dakota

I use the Dimple magnetic plugs http://www.drainplugmagnets.com/ they have a little o-ring on them but I've yet to ever see one that needed replaced.

Prior to I would change out the o-rings and use a bit of the white sealant as well.

Sep 29, 2016 | 12:37 PM

#14

dfwhockey17

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From: Fort Worth, TX

As mentioned, get the 3 drain plug o-rings and replace them, they are cheap. We also use a wrap of teflon tape on the drain plug threads to help seal and prevent any galling. Steel plugs like to cross-thread in soft aluminum!

Sep 29, 2016 | 12:54 PM

#15

bluzman24

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From: Phila, PA

$450.00 is a lot. Save your receipts, if you have any warranty issues in the future you can show that the maintenance was done. Plus having records helps at selling or trade in time.

Sep 29, 2016 | 12:59 PM

#16

Layne87

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From: TN

Not changing the O-rings will void the warranty...

sorry I just had to say that with all the EPA 17 model discussions.

Sep 30, 2016 | 01:14 PM

#17

mdm

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From: Here

Quote:

Originally Posted by gusotto

That "bad" o-ring still looked good when I removed it but it was still a bother to replace.
Waited until bike was cold. (Sat overnight.)
With new o-ring ready to go in, I did a quick replacement when I removed the plug.
Clean pan underneath to catch the small amount of oil.
The just added that small amount of oil when I was done.

Several times I've needed to remove the drain plug on a car/truck oil pan. You can remove the fill cap and put the end of a shop vac hose over the hole. The vacuum will prevent the oil from coming out the drain. There's been a couple of times that the engine was over-filled and I used this method to control a partial drain to reduce the level. Had a second set of hands move the hose end off the hole slightly to get some draining started. Once I had drained off enough the hose end went back on the hole until I got the plug back in.

I haven't had to use this on a motorcycle but I don't see why it wouldn't work.

O-rings are cheap.
https://www.amazon.com/11105-Harley-.../dp/B00GWYMNMG
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-David...3D180851948152

Last edited by mdm; Sep 30, 2016 at 01:17 PM.

Apr 6, 2017 | 07:38 PM

#18

eschrader

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From: SoCal

Are the oil plug orings part # from HD still 11105? They are $1.08 each from New Castle HD.
What type of oil for the transmission?

K&N Oil Filter Black- KN-171B - $8.42 on Amazon
6 qts Mobil 1 20W-50 Full Synthetic Motorcycle Oil - ~$60 at Walmart
Transmission oil same as engine? How many qts for 17 SGS?
2 O-rings (transmission and engine drain plugs) HD Part #11105? - $1.08 each
Clutch gasket cover? HD Part #17369-06- $4.14
2017 touring service manual HD Part #94000383 - $48.00 one time

$120 the first time with manual, $80 after (not including transmission oil)