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Old 08-07-2023, 12:41 AM
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has anyone changed out there lead acid battery for a lithium?

is so, which one?


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Old 08-07-2023, 07:25 AM
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Some say they love them. Some claims big engines start better. My opinion, is at the moment they are not worth the extra cost. I get 7+ years out of harley battery, so I don't see point for me. Maybe people with big engines or high compression it helps, something worth reading up on if you have one,

Then there is the discussion does cold effect them or not. Some say I don't care I don' ride when cold, some say I have started when cold just fine.

Also some discussion on them going to sleep if they get low, if you leave your lights on for few minutes it will wake up I have heard.

Some say they like they are so light. For me on a touring bike, I just don't think that matters.

I got a 7 year old battery I should replace, trying to decide if I want to make it through this summer. I am just going to the dealer and getting another one


If I lived in a hot climate, I would research how they do. Regular batteries don't like heat, at don't last as long. I am not sure if lithium is better.
 
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It's up to you to weigh the pros & cons but keep in mind you have to change the rectifier/regulator and they require a special charger.
 
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I have one from Twin Power its on 4 years now still seems strong.
I did get a lithium specific charger but have never heard of needing a diff. regulator.
I do know the last time I had to pick up my touring bike I was glad it was in there.
 
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Originally Posted by t0lbert
has anyone changed out there lead acid battery for a lithium?

is so, which one?


thanks!
I am on year 3 now on my X2 Lithium, and love the cranking power it has.

I have not experienced any of the myths so succinctly pointed out here in your thread.

So far, so good!
 
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Originally Posted by HD_noobie
I have one from Twin Power its on 4 years now still seems strong.
I did get a lithium specific charger but have never heard of needing a diff. regulator.
I do know the last time I had to pick up my touring bike I was glad it was in there.
I have a twin power also over 5 yrs now.
Still turns over my s&s 124 like the spark plugs are out.
 
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Old 08-07-2023, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by NorthWestern
I am on year 3 now on my X2 Lithium, and love the cranking power it has.

I have not experienced any of the myths so succinctly pointed out here in your thread.

So far, so good!
No direct experience on my part, just passing along information I heard on Revival Cycles electrical you tube videos, thanks!
Ken
 
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Old 08-07-2023, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by kidmo
It's up to you to weigh the pros & cons but keep in mind you have to change the rectifier/regulator and they require a special charger.
Different battery tender, but does not require a different regulator.
 
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I have done it in my off road motorcycles, I have not done it on the HD yet.. as I need to research it. This isn't a simple 1 for 1 swap.
Cons of Li Ion
- if you turn the motorcycle off and on frequently, it may not be a good option. The discharge and recovery of Li Ion is very different than Lead Acid or AGM.
- if you need to start in cold weather, this may be a problem. cold affects these batteries to the point that you might not have enough energy to start.
- need a different charger.

Pros
- weight. Similar power to a lead acid or AGM, a Li Ion is lighter weight. Probably not a concern with a HD.
- power - you can get more power out of a Li Ion in the same physical size as a Lead Acid or AGM.
- discharge - at acceptable temperature levels, Li Ion tends to discharge slower... so, your machine can sit longer and still start. (just don't start it a bunch of times in a short time window!)

If you size the battery correctly, it can be a great option.

 
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There a different animal, they don't like cold climates. I have one on a high compression engine, like someone already said it spins the engine like the plugs are out.
 


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