Kick Stand concern, 2006 Electra Glide
Thread Starter
|
Stage II
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Kick Stand concern, 2006 Electra Glide
I just bought this new Electra Glide. Now has a whole 91 miles on it. My concern is the kick stand. When put down it swings and rests a little toward the front of the bike and not exactly center of it's mount. That's until weight is put on it. When the weight of the bike is put on the stand the bike rolls forward enough to make you hold your breath thinking that it may keep going backwards and the bike takes a tumble. I park it in gear and of course the bike only rolls a little, but I shouldn't have to leave it in gear. Is this stand normal and has some kind of indent or lock to keep it from coming back far enough that the bike falls? Am I making any sense here. I'd take it to the dealer, but would like to know something now if possible. Thanks in advance for any information.
Jim
Jim
Tourer
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 263
Likes: 1
From: Amarillo, TX
RE: Kick Stand concern, 2006 Electra Glide
its normal. very easy to see if you get down and look at the jiffystand (I hate that name for a kickstand) that there is no way possible (unless it just falls apart) that the bike is going to go anywhere. It has a tab that locks in place when the bike leans over on the stand. someone on this or anther forum posted once that his dealer when he was picking up his new bike started the bike on the stand put it in gear andit went around in a circle 'round and 'round and 'round..... not sure I buy that story but thats what he said and I can see that it "should" work that way... maybe someone out there could test that story??? I aint brave enough to with my bike.
Intermediate
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
From:
RE: Kick Stand concern, 2006 Electra Glide
It's the same piece of $**t kickstand they put on the Dyna's too. Be very careful and hold your breath, I have seen a Duece fall over at the gas pumps, a Dyna in a showroom, and another Dyna at a Mcdonalds and all 3 fell after the rider walked away. I pull back on my bike, turn the wheel, get off shake the bike but deep down in side I feel like it's a time bomb waiting to happen.
Cruiser
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 200
Likes: 0
From:
RE: Kick Stand concern, 2006 Electra Glide
Every Harley Davidson motorcycle since 1964 has had a Jiffy Stand...
There has only been slight modifications to the design over the last 42 years. That is a whole lot of bikes using this exact kickstand. Just think of all the bikes that have been parked on dealer showroom floors during that time. If this stand failed or caused new bikes to fall over, the dealers would make them change them.
When engaging the stand; push forward with your left foot and lean the bike onto the stand. That's it.
There has only been slight modifications to the design over the last 42 years. That is a whole lot of bikes using this exact kickstand. Just think of all the bikes that have been parked on dealer showroom floors during that time. If this stand failed or caused new bikes to fall over, the dealers would make them change them.
When engaging the stand; push forward with your left foot and lean the bike onto the stand. That's it.
Intermediate
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
From:
RE: Kick Stand concern, 2006 Electra Glide
Bikes do fall in showrooms ask someone who has worked at a dealership. It's not just Harley either other brands have sucky kickstands and Harry hit it on the spot, they have used the same design on differant makes without change. Why? Because it's cheaper than designing and setting up dies for ones that would be more secure. Kinda like using the same tail lights for god knows how long. LOL
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,872
Likes: 83
From: Canton, Michigan
RE: Kick Stand concern, 2006 Electra Glide
ORIGINAL: cfiaim
My concern is the kick stand. When put down it swings and rests a little toward the front of the bike and not exactly center of it's mount. That's until weight is put on it. When the weight of the bike is put on the stand the bike rolls forward enough to make you hold your breath thinking that it may keep going backwards and the bike takes a tumble. I park it in gear and of course the bike only rolls a little, but I shouldn't have to leave it in gear. Is this stand normal and has some kind of indent or lock to keep it from coming back far enough that the bike falls? Am I making any sense here.
My concern is the kick stand. When put down it swings and rests a little toward the front of the bike and not exactly center of it's mount. That's until weight is put on it. When the weight of the bike is put on the stand the bike rolls forward enough to make you hold your breath thinking that it may keep going backwards and the bike takes a tumble. I park it in gear and of course the bike only rolls a little, but I shouldn't have to leave it in gear. Is this stand normal and has some kind of indent or lock to keep it from coming back far enough that the bike falls? Am I making any sense here.
The only time my bike even came close to falling over is when I failed to swing the 'jiffystand' forward far enough before I leaned the bike over.
I normally don't leave the bike in gear when I park it.....Lot's of bad things can happen if you forget you did that. Some more dramatic than others when alcohol is involved.
Road Captain
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 711
Likes: 0
From: Bothell, WA
RE: Kick Stand concern, 2006 Electra Glide
I normally don't leave the bike in gear when I park it.....Lot's of bad things can happen if you forget you did that. Some more dramatic than others when alcohol is involved.
If you make it a habit, it becomes second nature. Park in first gear, right the bike and lift jiffy stand, rock the bike forward and back slightly while shifting to nuetral, key switch on, switch to run and hit the starter.
I would rather have an occasional (alcohol induced) hicup and try to start the bike in gear without the clutch pulled in than to have the bike roll forward off the jiffy stand and fall over unattended!
Trending Topics
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,872
Likes: 83
From: Canton, Michigan
RE: Kick Stand concern, 2006 Electra Glide
Dang.....What kind of hills do you park on? At 800+ lbs my 'glide doesn't slide forward or backwards on the inclines I park on. But if it did, I would definitely put it in first gear. If the 'Jiffystand' is properly engaged (Tab in Slot), it isn't falling off the stand accidently.
And just a crazy bit of trivia: I used to haul cars/trucks thirty years ago and the company would write you up if they found an automatic trans car/truck on your hauler that was in Park. Same for the manual tranny vehicles. They wanted them all in neutral with the parking brake on. Made for some real excitement when you lossened up the last tie down chain and the parking brake wouldn't hold that 76 Chrysler New Yorker (or 1 ton van) on the slippery metal ramps.
And yes, I park my personal auto trans vehicles in Park....With the parking brake on. And my manual trans vehicle in neutral...With the parking brake on. Only occassionally will I put the manual in first if I'm forced to park on a 'severe' incline.
To each his own I guess.
And just a crazy bit of trivia: I used to haul cars/trucks thirty years ago and the company would write you up if they found an automatic trans car/truck on your hauler that was in Park. Same for the manual tranny vehicles. They wanted them all in neutral with the parking brake on. Made for some real excitement when you lossened up the last tie down chain and the parking brake wouldn't hold that 76 Chrysler New Yorker (or 1 ton van) on the slippery metal ramps.
And yes, I park my personal auto trans vehicles in Park....With the parking brake on. And my manual trans vehicle in neutral...With the parking brake on. Only occassionally will I put the manual in first if I'm forced to park on a 'severe' incline.
To each his own I guess.
HD Forum Stories
The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles
Verdad Gallardo
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever
Pouria Savadkouei
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever
Pouria Savadkouei
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In
Verdad Gallardo
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?
Verdad Gallardo
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept
Verdad Gallardo
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II
Verdad Gallardo
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy
Joe Kucinski
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026
Verdad Gallardo
Road Captain
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 711
Likes: 0
From: Bothell, WA
RE: Kick Stand concern, 2006 Electra Glide
I live in the Seattle area (Cascade Mountains). If you are familiar with the hills around here, then you'll understand. It can be difficult to find a level surface, unless of course you live in a valley. Most people around here don't even have level drive ways. I park EVERYTHING in gear with the brake set. I once started my F350 powerstroke in the driveway in nuetral with the parking break set. Walked in the house to pick up some stuff. When I came back outside, my truck was no longer in the driveway. It had rolled back, crossed the street, and knocked over the neighbors fence. No damage to the truck, but I was out $1200 bucks to repair the neighbors fence. You guessed it, I don't trust parking breaks, especially on a heavy vehicle.
The bike will not roll in gear, why not leave it there just for safety sake?
The bike will not roll in gear, why not leave it there just for safety sake?
Seasoned HDF Member
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 11,068
Likes: 1,477
From: Texas! Ya mean there's someplace else?
RE: Kick Stand concern, 2006 Electra Glide
Don't most of the Dyna's have a non-locking kickstand? If so, they'll fall over if the bike ain't parked correctly. However, on the Sloptails and Barges the stand locks in place when the weight of the bike is on it. It can't come unlocked and fall over unless the lock tab breaks (very rare), the tab gets worn out (still very rare), or the bike is parked so that its weight doesn't rest completely on the kickstand (not so rare with foolios not paying attention).
Now for a history lesson, of a sort. They're called Jiffy Stands 'cause you can flop 'em down in a jiffy. Before jiffy stands came along the bikes had a stand that pivoted on both sides underneath the frame and was attached at the tail end of the rear fender while riding. You dropped the rear of the stand on the ground, sorta lifted the back of the bike while moving it in a rearward direction, which lifted the rear of the bike off the ground up onto the stand. Took a little muscle, coordination, and rattled like crap when you were going down the road!
Now for a history lesson, of a sort. They're called Jiffy Stands 'cause you can flop 'em down in a jiffy. Before jiffy stands came along the bikes had a stand that pivoted on both sides underneath the frame and was attached at the tail end of the rear fender while riding. You dropped the rear of the stand on the ground, sorta lifted the back of the bike while moving it in a rearward direction, which lifted the rear of the bike off the ground up onto the stand. Took a little muscle, coordination, and rattled like crap when you were going down the road!