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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 02:22 AM
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If only autotuners worked as well as the propaganda says. Sure you can try to figure out how to get to all the cells long enough to get quality data.
If only you could read that bitty screen while riding out in traffic.
If only everyone who questions what to do gets to ride a properly dyno tuned bike and compare an auto tuned bike.
If only owners would ask the guys who actually tune bikes for a living for advice before they buy.
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by FLTRI17
If only autotuners worked as well as the propaganda says. Sure you can try to figure out how to get to all the cells long enough to get quality data.
If only you could read that bitty screen while riding out in traffic.
If only everyone who questions what to do gets to ride a properly dyno tuned bike and compare an auto tuned bike.
If only owners would ask the guys who actually tune bikes for a living for advice before they buy.
Bob
Ah, there speaks a wise man!
 
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 04:36 PM
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Check the Sticky Threads view numbers at the top for each of the top tuners and that will tell you all you need to know about which tuner is the most popular here on this Forum. It's the most popular for a reason.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2015 | 02:37 PM
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Maybe it has the most views because it has the most problems. Maybe it is the most popular because of the propaganda? Maybe people bought into the hype. A lot of reasons why something has views and why it is popular.


I tune about 2-3 bikes a week. I have tuned with all the top 4 flash tuners. My opinion is not based on what others have spent their money on. It is based on using the products on many different builds with all there own unique problems. That is when a tuner shines as a real tuner and what is fluff.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2015 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by hrdtail78
Maybe it has the most views because it has the most problems. Maybe it is the most popular because of the propaganda? Maybe people bought into the hype. A lot of reasons why something has views and why it is popular.

... I have tuned with all the top 4 flash tuners. My opinion is not based on what others have spent their money on. It is based on using the products on many different builds with all there own unique problems. That is when a tuner shines as a real tuner and what is fluff.
Jason, I couldn't have said it better!

Saturated marketing will most always win over quality...at least in the short run.

If I have a heart problem I go to surgeons for advice not receptionists.
Sure the receptionist hears what results are but have no idea of the particulars of how the patient was cured. It's the surgeon's job to know.

AFAIK, Harley bikes have more varieties of builds and exhausts than any other.
Therefore there are numerous tuning challenges with virtually anything more than cookie cutter builds with restrictive exhaust systems.

For the above and other reasons a lot of plug and play autotuner bikes end up at the Dyno tuner because of continuing running issues.
Bob
 
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