Stage 1 and my Dealer
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Stage 1 and my Dealer
While I'm waiting impatiently on my new Ultra to arrive I've been building a list of things I want to do to it. I know...like crack right? Anyway, I stopped by and was talking to my dealer and asking how much a Stage 1 would cost me. He told me two things that worried me:
1. They don't use/have a Dyno. Supposedly the guy who does it is real good. (frown)
2. They only use the HD download, not SERT. Says since it says Racing they won't do it.
I like the Dealer but I'm thinking I should find someone else to do the Stage 1 if I go with the SERT. All I want to do is open the air, fuel and add some SE slip on's. Would the HD download suffice for that? I've seen mixed opinions.
Thoughts?
1. They don't use/have a Dyno. Supposedly the guy who does it is real good. (frown)
2. They only use the HD download, not SERT. Says since it says Racing they won't do it.
I like the Dealer but I'm thinking I should find someone else to do the Stage 1 if I go with the SERT. All I want to do is open the air, fuel and add some SE slip on's. Would the HD download suffice for that? I've seen mixed opinions.
Thoughts?
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RE: Stage 1 and my Dealer
Like you I've heard a lot of opinions but most say the downloads just aren't quite right yet on the 06's. I'd try another dealer in the area or an independent with references myself.
Try: http://stealer-dealer.com/sd_VA.htm for some feedback from your peers.
Good luck,
primo
Try: http://stealer-dealer.com/sd_VA.htm for some feedback from your peers.
Good luck,
primo
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RE: Stage 1 and my Dealer
The downloads have been beat up pretty bad on the forum. I think no, stay away from them.
Not everyone can do a SERT. Most dealers prefer the PCIII because it's easier and/or they just do not have the technical expertise to do the SERT properly. HD requires a whole bunch of certification to get to SERT classes. The PCII can be adjusted while on the Dyno. Whereas the SERT cannot. With the SERT the ECM (EPROM) is flashed and then the results checked on the Dyno. The PCIII has a smaller range than the SERT. Since you're at Stage I the PCIII would be a less expensive and more than adequate solution. You should have better luck finding dealer that can do the PCIII.
The rumor is that the EPA is getting tougher and SERT may become unavailable in the future. If you plan on going well beyond Stage 1 you may want to go after the SERT now. It's not rocket science but it's also not for the non technical.
Hope this and comments from others are helpful
Not everyone can do a SERT. Most dealers prefer the PCIII because it's easier and/or they just do not have the technical expertise to do the SERT properly. HD requires a whole bunch of certification to get to SERT classes. The PCII can be adjusted while on the Dyno. Whereas the SERT cannot. With the SERT the ECM (EPROM) is flashed and then the results checked on the Dyno. The PCIII has a smaller range than the SERT. Since you're at Stage I the PCIII would be a less expensive and more than adequate solution. You should have better luck finding dealer that can do the PCIII.
The rumor is that the EPA is getting tougher and SERT may become unavailable in the future. If you plan on going well beyond Stage 1 you may want to go after the SERT now. It's not rocket science but it's also not for the non technical.
Hope this and comments from others are helpful
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RE: Stage 1 and my Dealer
They have a pretty glowing reputation (Waugh HD in Orange, VA). I was just suprised to hear they don't have a Dyno. I think your comment about they just don't have the 06's dialed in yet is very valid. I'll just sit and be patient until they do. Besides, I have the catalog and that can be dangerous enough on it's own!
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RE: Stage 1 and my Dealer
Ok, I know I'm "Dumb and Dumber", but I just don't get it. As I earlier reported, My '06 is running great with the HD Download, Stage 2 Big Bore, and SE slip ons. My dealer did have to order the newest version, so he says, of the download. Also, dealer won't DYNO bike until I put on another 500 to 700 miles. I'll keep you posted but weather in Chicago right now is calling for 4 to 6 inches of the white stuff.
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