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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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I know this has been asked before but I'm not able to find the thread. Any way I have a 07 Ultra classic been running it with tmax auto tuner for about 3000miles and the decel pop is killing me can someone help me please. I have looked for other down loads and the one I have fits my bike best but still decel pops what to do ? Thankyou Scott
 
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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Scott: You need to specify whether the pops are in the low rpms close to idle or in the upper rpms, as each one requires a different fix. Both are fixable.
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 07:35 PM
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Shoot all I can say if I'm letting off to slow for a corner it will pop and now that I think about it I'm in the throttle and then let off . Man I sound real duh for somebody who has been wrenching for 25 years.
 
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If it's the area of second and first gear when slowing for a stop or corner it's a low rpm pop. The most common cure is to enrichen all the maps from 14% throttle position and down. I forgot what that worked out to in mine as it could have been 1536 or 1792 rpm. You want to set the afr to 13.021 from there to 512 rpm. Try from 1536-512 rpms and see if it cures it, and if not go to 1792 rpm as the starting point.
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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Thankyou Ron let me see if I understand this right from 512 rpm to 1536 or 1792 I want to fat it up to 13.021 on the afr ? If this is right where and what is the afr and do i need to be linked up to find this . You can see why i put a carb on my last injected bike. I thankyou for your help
 
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Either that, or you can just try using the Decel Fuel Cut and Decel Fuel Cut RPM Low/High values on the Basic Settings page. They work pretty well for me, and were a pretty easy fix while I started to figure out the rest of the TMax configurations.

I set my low RPM value to 1600 and my high value to 2624, and it really helped cut out the decelleration popping on my bike.

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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 10:09 AM
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Thankyou Ron let me see if I understand this right from 512 rpm to 1536 or 1792 I want to fat it up to 13.021 on the afr ? If this is right where and what is the afr and do i need to be linked up to find this . You can see why i put a carb on my last injected bike. I thankyou for your help
If you are within Tunamans rpm range of popping then set the values to his. Don't go below that minumum or you may need to add accel fuel to stop hesitation.
If your pops are 1600 and below fattening the low speed is really the only option I can see. At this point you need to read that part of the manual to get a feel for the short cuts. Open the software with your map and hit F2 for the short cut keys. While in there , practice the cut and paste part. All this really speeds things up once you know how to use it.
Open your afr vrs tps , and practice editing one map, say around 1536 to the values you want. If you screw up close the map, and it will ask you if you want to save changes. Don't Save. Re-open the map and edit again if needed.
If you have what you want with the edit hit the Shift,Ctrl, and C key in that order. Open the next lower map and click on the map. Now hit Shift, Ctrl, and V and your previous map edit will appear in this map. Move on down each map and finish at 512 rpm. Close the program and DON'T SAVE. Do it again until you are comfy with it. Now the real deal.
Hooked up to the bike and software open, turn key and run switch on. Top of software page click on map editing and then (read module maps and settings). Go to the afr pages and do the edits you practiced from 1536-512. Do NOT write map and settings back to module. When you are done, click on the link button at the top and it should turn red. Turn key off on bike and you are done. This is a live edit and no initalize is required. When you close the software it will ask if you want to save it. Click yes and a modified map will appear in the file menu of the program. If you click no, you can always read the map again at a later date and save it then if it was successful.
Sounds complicated at first, but give yourself some time and it will start to make sense.
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Just a point of clarification to Ron's instructions above (nice succint step-by-step Ron!) - in order to copy, press and hold SHIFT and CTRL and hit C (while the others are still depressed); to paste, press and hold SHIFT and CTRL and hit V (while the others are still depressed). Subtle but necessary detail. Apologies to all who already know this.

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Correct. You will go insane otherwise trying to make it work . Hard to tell how much pc skill someone has prior to jumping into tuning with one.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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What to thank you for your help . I spent some time this morning and last night reading the new updates so I uloaded all the new soft ware and a new frimware and now i have new maps to play with and decel pop on /off all sort of new things. see I installed my tmax in feb 07 and the soft was real basic so i was fighting it and after talking with you guys I thought i better looked into what was going on in the real world Thankyou again
 
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