Has anyone used the oxygen sensor simulator on their bike?

 

elaborate..

 

I have been playing with inducing hydrogen on my bike with great result. In doing so I also incoporate an electronic fuel injection enhancer (EFIE) to manipulate the ECM to see the lean condition the hydrogen is creating is normal, hence the Oxygen sensors does not induce more fuel because it is detecting the clean exhaust.

On several older bike I installed the system on they do not have any O2 sensors which was nice because all I had to do was plug and play and the result is beyond belief. With the newer bike I am able to fool the ECM to decrease fuel or increase fuel but it adds to the price of the system. If I can use the O2 simulator and keep the AFR at the stock setting and burn every bit of that fuel it would be easier for anyone to install the system. It's easy now but some fine tuning on the O2 is required.

It is an advantage if the bike already has a after market ECM like the PC or the Thurder Max, but necessary to take advantage of the affect of hydrogen. that's the target I am after, instead of spending 800-1000 on an ECM you can have the same result and then some from this system for half the price.

Thus far, half dozen bike in my area are running on my system and loving every mile they ride. In the summer the 07 to 08 dresser bike which ran hot, ran cooler and good mpg, smooth throttle repsonse, fast accel, and great low to mid torque.

 

So when you say simulator - do you mean something like the PowerCommander O2 eliminator?

 

Have you checked Nightrider to inspect their xIED's? I believe they also have a set that is adjustable so you can dial in your 02 setting from 14.5 to 13.8 if memory serves. They also sell eliminators for the 02 sensor wiring, sorry I do not know what resistance they are set at but I believe them to emulate 13.8.

Sounds interesting. Keep us informed as to your progress.

 

What is the advantage--result--you are seeing using H2?

Is it worth the effort?

Or is it a cool challenge to make it work?

Just curious. Used to work around H2 and it always seemed to me a good material to blow yourself up with.

 

do you mean something like the PowerCommander O2 eliminator? YES, the same thing. the local Harley dealer mentioned them to me while my bike was being dyno.

I thought I would share two testimonial from other riders.

Ben,
I was looking for ways to increase my throttle response and power on my 2005 Heritage Softail to keep up with my riding buddies who all own Ultra Classics but was unsure what I really wanted to do and started doing a little research. I was not familiar with the Hydrogen-Tek system but after reading more about it and discussing it with you I thought I would give it a shot. Needless to say I was overwhelmed with my throttle response as well as my power. As I took it for my first test ride I noticed I had more power with less RPM which means it has actually given me an additional gear. I have not actually tested my MPG because my main concern was throttle response and power, I am very satisfied with this product and have already recommended it to other riders. The Hydrogen-Tek system is definitely worth the money.

Ben,
I am happy to say that since you installed the Hydrogen-Tek system on my 2003 Road King I am no longer thinking of getting a new bike. So I thank you and my wallet thanks you. From the time I bought the bike in 2003 I've thought that the 88CI engine and the 5 speed tranny were too sluggish and unresponsive. So I've spend hundreds on a Hi-flow intake, new pipes and power commander to dial in the timing and performance. Which all helped but I still found myself wanting better throttle response and always looking for another gear. Now that I have the Hydrogen-Tek system installed it feels like I have a new bike. The throttle response is instant and impressive. I can actually burn rubber and pass traffic at will. The engine runs cooler and smoother I am getting more power at a lower RPM so I'm no longer looking for a 6th gear. And best of all my MPG has increased by 5 MPG ,I am getting an extra 25 miles out of a tank of gas. So I figure the Hydrogen-Tek system will pay for itself I no time.

Thanks,
Rich

P.S. I'm thinking we should talk about a system for my boat.


These benefits are what we always want to experience. we always want to induce more gas for more power, but never really burn anymore than before the mod was done. Now with hydrogen involve in the burn process you are burning more of what's already being induced by the stock setting, in this case 14.5:1. I can control that amount with the EFIE on newer bikes and still burn majority of the fuel. I want to add that I don't have a fancy machine to test this but my nose, and the sit of my pants. Oh yeah, several dyno run from stock my old RKC went from stock hp and tq to 75hp to 85 tq doing that on regular gas. because you don't need the high octane for burn faster and cleaner to prevent knocking, the hydrogen will augment the burn process to burn faster and cleaner. the flame speed will definitely increase.

A stock bike will accel to 3k with major throttle angle, with hyrdrogen involve you barely twist the throttle to feel the response and getting to 4-5k is childs play. One other benefit is not having all the carbor and polution contaminating the oil, the oil stays cleaner longer and in removes any carbor build up from all the valves and piston head area. I know this becuase I remove the head from my RKC and look at the valve, sorry to say that my "puter' died hence all my dyno run and photo were lost. I am in the process of running my 07 Ultra to 10k miles before oil change and have the oil analyze for comtamination.

One test I did as a person verification is. close the garage door ran the bike without the HHO, not even a minute later I was crying from the poplution. Let the garage air out ran the bike with HHO the odor from not having the unburn fuel was none existance.

I am focusing on bike because I am told sooner or later the smog requirement for bike will increase, with this system you can run as much gas you want and still burn majority of it and induce small amount of polution. Of course there is a limit to the amount of fuel to this v-Twin where its harmful.

Another goal is to maintain the 14.5:1 AFR and focus on burning all that fuel but eliminating the O2 and forcing the ECM to maintain that AFR and eliminating the EFIE from the cost of the system. but if you want to schedule more fuel for power and not concern about mpg you can still have the EFIE to do that.

 

Find someone that has a Power Commander 5 with the auto tune, tey should have the o2 eliminators left over. I might have a few sets laying around, i'll have to check in the A.M. and get back with you.

 

Thanks, Harleytuner pm me how I can make up for you trouble. If this work. Do you know if they area sold seperate from the PC V kit? I guess I can always talk to Jammie at FuelMoto.