Power Vision Information Thread
Intermediate
Joined: Oct 2011
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From: Arizona
Ok so now alot of you have PV And been running it for awhile, is there any reason not to go with PV for my 2012 EG Limited? Fueo Motos Jamie seems to be a stand up guy with a tremendous amount of knowledge. I'm wanting to go with his 2/1/2 pipe, tour mufflers or monster rounds and Woods tw555 cams and keep coming back to PV , but the talk on this stickie seems to be very technical, so I'm wondering if this systems simplicity, plug and play, is overrated.
Please comment.
Thanks
Don
Please comment.
Thanks
Don
Road Master
Joined: Mar 2007
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Ok so now alot of you have PV And been running it for awhile, is there any reason not to go with PV for my 2012 EG Limited? Fueo Motos Jamie seems to be a stand up guy with a tremendous amount of knowledge. I'm wanting to go with his 2/1/2 pipe, tour mufflers or monster rounds and Woods tw555 cams and keep coming back to PV , but the talk on this stickie seems to be very technical, so I'm wondering if this systems simplicity is overrated.
Please comment.
Thanks
Don
Please comment.
Thanks
Don
Power Vision has a huge advantage in that you can view almost anything on it as a digital display after the tuning is done. Things like gas mileage, gear, digital speedometer or even fuel trims to keep an eye on the tune as weather or fuel changes.
Sure you can get real over the top technical with these things or you can just toss in a caned map from Jamie and just go ride. Lots of people stop at this stage if not most people do. It's up to you.
Have fun tuning or just riding.
Beast
Road Warrior
Joined: Jan 2008
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From: Upstate SC
Ok so now alot of you have PV And been running it for awhile, is there any reason not to go with PV for my 2012 EG Limited? Fueo Motos Jamie seems to be a stand up guy with a tremendous amount of knowledge. I'm wanting to go with his 2/1/2 pipe, tour mufflers or monster rounds and Woods tw555 cams and keep coming back to PV , but the talk on this stickie seems to be very technical, so I'm wondering if this systems simplicity, plug and play, is overrated.
Please comment.
Thanks
Don
Please comment.
Thanks
Don
The PV is very simple to use but it also is a very powerful tuner. The tables used in EFI tuning are very technical so sometimes the back and forth on this thread is just that - technical. For ease of use, I don't think you will find a better tuner that has all of the functions you may need. The PV can be used as simply as plugging it in and loading a predefined map for your setup or you can get as involved in the tuning as you want.
Tuning really doesn't change from tuner to tuner. The tables are all the same. The tuner is just the interface or tool to get the job done and the PV is a very good one. It can also be used to display a lot of useful information as you ride. It can read a tune from the bike and let you edit it, it does autotune data logging without having to drag a laptop along, etc....
Last edited by JustDennis; Oct 26, 2011 at 06:36 AM.
Intermediate
Joined: Oct 2011
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From: Arizona
Don
The PV is very simple to use but it also is a very powerful tuner. The tables used in EFI tuning are very technical so sometimes the back and forth on this thread is just that - technical. For ease of use, I don't think you will find a better tuner that has all of the functions you may need. The PV can be used as simply as plugging it in and loading a predefined map for your setup or you can get as involved in the tuning as you want.
Tuning really doesn't change from tuner to tuner. The tables are all the same. The tuner is just the interface or tool to get the job done and the PV is a very good one. It can also be used to display a lot of useful information as you ride. It can read a tune from the bike and let you edit it, it does autotune data logging without having to drag a laptop along, etc....
The PV is very simple to use but it also is a very powerful tuner. The tables used in EFI tuning are very technical so sometimes the back and forth on this thread is just that - technical. For ease of use, I don't think you will find a better tuner that has all of the functions you may need. The PV can be used as simply as plugging it in and loading a predefined map for your setup or you can get as involved in the tuning as you want.
Tuning really doesn't change from tuner to tuner. The tables are all the same. The tuner is just the interface or tool to get the job done and the PV is a very good one. It can also be used to display a lot of useful information as you ride. It can read a tune from the bike and let you edit it, it does autotune data logging without having to drag a laptop along, etc....
When knocking occurs?
Thanks
Road Warrior
Joined: Jan 2008
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From: Upstate SC
The autotune feature of the PV allows you to create log data as you ride and then analyze and apply that data to your tune. The log data allows you to corrrect fuel delivery and timing. It does not automatically apply the changes as you ride. The PV can use the stock O2 sensors for data logging or you can use the wideband autotune sensors from Dynojet as well.
Novice
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 15
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From: Cedar Park, TX
I just purchased one from Fuel Moto along with the 4" Jackpots, air cleaner, and 2/1/2 pipe. I was a little worried before buying the tuner that it was just going to be too technical and maybe I should go with a PCV. I have not flashed the bike yet, but I did plug the tuner into the computer and downloaded the maps that fuel moto included on the tuner. Once you download the map and start looking at them, they really are not as intimidating as initially thought. Maybe I will re-consider my thought on it when I do flash and have to start ironing out any bugs...but I am hoping fuel moto's maps are going to be on the money and I will be done!
Ok so now alot of you have PV And been running it for awhile, is there any reason not to go with PV for my 2012 EG Limited? Fueo Motos Jamie seems to be a stand up guy with a tremendous amount of knowledge. I'm wanting to go with his 2/1/2 pipe, tour mufflers or monster rounds and Woods tw555 cams and keep coming back to PV , but the talk on this stickie seems to be very technical, so I'm wondering if this systems simplicity, plug and play, is overrated.
Please comment.
Thanks
Don
Please comment.
Thanks
Don
Stage III
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 3
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From: France
I thought that, except flashing ECM, all other functions of the PV could be done on other bikes.
Actually that's not true : I wanted to do a copy of CURRENT of another bike and the PV says it was not married to that bike.
I understand that flashing need PV to be married, but not reading...
And it's for reading the ECM tables values (*.pvt) not the ECM (*.stk)
I wanted to analyse his spark advance tables, his bike's running very well...
Actually that's not true : I wanted to do a copy of CURRENT of another bike and the PV says it was not married to that bike.
I understand that flashing need PV to be married, but not reading...
And it's for reading the ECM tables values (*.pvt) not the ECM (*.stk)
I wanted to analyse his spark advance tables, his bike's running very well...
Stage III
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 3
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From: France
Anyway I'm happy with the PV, but just a little dissapointed as I told my friend it can do it...
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Road Warrior
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,549
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From: Upstate SC
The PV can read diagnostic information from other bikes but when it comes to loading the current ECM config or flashing a new tune the the ECM, it must be married to the bike. As part of the initial marrying sequence, the PV actually makes a copy of the original ECM config.