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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by fullautomike
I was looking at my map, which started as a FM map. My EITMS is set for 310*C on and 135*C off. 310*C is 590*F. Is this set so high so it will never come on? What should it be set to?
My factory settings are set to come on at 284*F and off at 275*F.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 05:01 PM
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My factory settings are set to come on at 284*F and off at 275*F.

Thanks, I'll give that a try.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 07:08 PM
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It seems the more I read the more confused I become. But I'll keep trying! Forgive me if the following doesn't make sense but I'm wanting to get this tuning business done so I can spend what little time I have to ride just enjoying my knees in the breeze.

I started out (nearly a year ago...again, don't get much free time so it's taking forever!) my datalogging using the log tuner method. I made a value file using the tune supplied by FM as I recall. I made a few data runs last summer/fall and then it was time to park it for the winter.

Fast forward to this spring...I decided to try the Autotune method. Seemed like it would be fairly easy to do. I have done 11 data runs and am very close to getting the VE's in order so I AM making some progress (I hope so anyway).

My question now is...if I want to go back to using the log tuner method for some fine tuning once I get the VE's just right, do I need to make a new value file using the auto tune results and start from there? Or do I use the original value file created using the original FM map last year?

Any guidance whatsoever is greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your time.


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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 2mOOn
My question now is...if I want to go back to using the log tuner method for some fine tuning once I get the VE's just right, do I need to make a new value file using the auto tune results and start from there? Or do I use the original value file created using the original FM map last year?
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You would create a new .pvv file based on the calibration (tune) you used to generate the new tune.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Yookie1
Good, thanks for the response.
Anyone have any recomendations on good books for learning how to tune? My local library is pretty small.
You just posted on probably the best book you can read. Everything you need to know is right here.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 2mOOn
It seems the more I read the more confused I become. But I'll keep trying! Forgive me if the following doesn't make sense but I'm wanting to get this tuning business done so I can spend what little time I have to ride just enjoying my knees in the breeze.

I started out (nearly a year ago...again, don't get much free time so it's taking forever!) my datalogging using the log tuner method. I made a value file using the tune supplied by FM as I recall. I made a few data runs last summer/fall and then it was time to park it for the winter.

Fast forward to this spring...I decided to try the Autotune method. Seemed like it would be fairly easy to do. I have done 11 data runs and am very close to getting the VE's in order so I AM making some progress (I hope so anyway).

My question now is...if I want to go back to using the log tuner method for some fine tuning once I get the VE's just right, do I need to make a new value file using the auto tune results and start from there? Or do I use the original value file created using the original FM map last year?

Any guidance whatsoever is greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your time.


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Always use the LAST tune you created.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 07:51 AM
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Hi,
a new PV user here. Read through all the pages ( whoa! ) and also "PV tuner basic instructions v1" by JustDennis and I´m quite confused. Too much information I guess
I have a 2002 fatboy without o2 sensors.
Modifications are only air cleaner and mufflers.
I bought PV from FuelMoto and they provided me a basemap. Bike is running well, but of course I want to make the map "better / more accurate".

Please forgive me, but how do I make VE logging and adjustment without autotune? Simplified instructions would be greatly appreciated.

When creating a value file in logtuner, do I have to iclude spark or AFR tables if I only want to correct VEs?
Can I use the 319245-code and green screen when making log-runs even I don´t have o2sensors?
Also, is it possible to get the gear gauge to work with my model year?

Thanks.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JSTS
Hi,
a new PV user here. Read through all the pages ( whoa! ) and also "PV tuner basic instructions v1" by JustDennis and I´m quite confused. Too much information I guess
I have a 2002 fatboy without o2 sensors.
Modifications are only air cleaner and mufflers.
I bought PV from FuelMoto and they provided me a basemap. Bike is running well, but of course I want to make the map "better / more accurate".

Please forgive me, but how do I make VE logging and adjustment without autotune? Simplified instructions would be greatly appreciated.

When creating a value file in logtuner, do I have to iclude spark or AFR tables if I only want to correct VEs?
Can I use the 319245-code and green screen when making log-runs even I don´t have o2sensors?
Also, is it possible to get the gear gauge to work with my model year?

Thanks.
JSTS.... if you dont have o2 sensors the PV probably was not the best tuner for you. I didnt even know it would work on an 02. If you dont have o2 sensors i dont see how the unit will get any data for VE. My understanding is the unit looks at the o2 sensors to correct VE table.

If you have a base map from fuelmoto you can see the VE table obviously. The only way that i can see you dialing in your VE table is manualy ( trial and error ) and that dont make sense.....or you need some kind of sniffer and will have to make manual adjustment based on the readings. So essentially you need to go to a dyno. or.... ( correct me if im wrong here guys ) can you add wide band sensors to your ECM? Then the unit will function as it has for many here. i just dont see how it will work other than manual adjustments for you. Some of the data the PV collects might work.not sure. For your bike i would have gotten a different tuner. Did fuelmoto say anything about functions that would work or not work on your bike with this tuner?
 
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Originally Posted by JSTS
I have a 2002 fatboy without o2 sensors.
Modifications are only air cleaner and mufflers.
I bought PV from FuelMoto and they provided me a basemap. Bike is running well, but of course I want to make the map "better / more accurate".

Please forgive me, but how do I make VE logging and adjustment without autotune? Simplified instructions would be greatly appreciated.
Without O2 sensors you can't correct VE's using autotune basic.
There is an Auto Tune Pro Kit available from Dynojet that can provide that capability. You would have to weld O2 bungs to your exhaust to use Auto Tune Pro so you could fit the O2 sensors from the kit.

http://www.dynojet.com/powervision/p...cessories.aspx
 
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 10:39 AM
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Thanks for the replies Delta and Stailjim61. That's kinda what I thought but wanted to be sure.


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