Pro Tuner Advice
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Pro Tuner Advice
I bought a 2006 FatBoy last year off a guy who didn't know much about the build he had done to it. After many phone calls and research I was able to figure out most of it. It has the screamin eagle Pro stage II Kit – 95 cubic inches (1550cc) Part No. 29775-02B. Stage II SE203 cams, 3-7/8" cylinders, 3-7/8" pistons. Vance & Hines fuelpak on it which I am taking off cause I could not get it tuned right and it is not recommend for the stage II download anyway. My question is what is the best tuner for me to get? I am thinking about the Pro super tuner 32109-08B.
Thanks for any help.
Thanks for any help.
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I have the SEPST but switched to TTS Mastertune. SEPST does not give you the ability to save the factory calibration. TTS has tons more calibrations to get you closer to your setup. SEPST has smarttune, TTS has vtune to dial it in even closer. TTS is the maker of the SERT that was used until SEPST was introduced. Steve Cole was the original SERT man and has took Mastertune to new levels. Much more support in the forums for TTS. Both are fine tuners but you'll be own your own on a lot of the SEPST tuning time. YMMV
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A fatboy is a softail, right? NO O2s on that bike. A tune basically can be had two ways. Pay a dyno tuner and buy whatever tuner he wants to use like the SERT, direct link, TTS, etc
Or, get a flash based tuner... TTS, SEPST, AND a TwinScan + kit. Use the Twin Scan to find the VEs, then use the flash tuner to install those new found VEs into the bike.
Without stock O2s... you can NOT self tune DIYer style simply using a TTS or SEPST.
Or, get a flash based tuner... TTS, SEPST, AND a TwinScan + kit. Use the Twin Scan to find the VEs, then use the flash tuner to install those new found VEs into the bike.
Without stock O2s... you can NOT self tune DIYer style simply using a TTS or SEPST.
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A fatboy is a softail, right? NO O2s on that bike. A tune basically can be had two ways. Pay a dyno tuner and buy whatever tuner he wants to use like the SERT, direct link, TTS, etc
Or, get a flash based tuner... TTS, SEPST, AND a TwinScan + kit. Use the Twin Scan to find the VEs, then use the flash tuner to install those new found VEs into the bike.
Without stock O2s... you can NOT self tune DIYer style simply using a TTS or SEPST.
Or, get a flash based tuner... TTS, SEPST, AND a TwinScan + kit. Use the Twin Scan to find the VEs, then use the flash tuner to install those new found VEs into the bike.
Without stock O2s... you can NOT self tune DIYer style simply using a TTS or SEPST.
Guy with a 05 RK came over with his old SERT all pissed off and says... Why can't i just set the AFR's to 13.2 and all the VE's to 100% with my new 204 cams... This shouldn't be so darn hard to understand and it should work, I've read all the forums about tuning!!!
I did just that for him and let it idle for a few minutes in a closed garage then asked him to ride around the block after he stopped coughing. When he returned the look on his face was priceless. He walked around muttering something for about 30 minutes and scratched his head for a while. Then he let me hook up my TS... The boy left a happy camper.
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I have the SEPST but switched to TTS Mastertune. SEPST does not give you the ability to save the factory calibration. TTS has tons more calibrations to get you closer to your setup. SEPST has smarttune, TTS has vtune to dial it in even closer. TTS is the maker of the SERT that was used until SEPST was introduced. Steve Cole was the original SERT man and has took Mastertune to new levels. Much more support in the forums for TTS. Both are fine tuners but you'll be own your own on a lot of the SEPST tuning time. YMMV
Bill
Bill
The TTS requires you to lug around a laptop to capture data for tuning or other analysis.
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Saving the factory calibration IMHO is worthless. It's encrypted so you can't look at it or manipulate it in any way. If you use the SEPST and choose a calibration off the disk for your model year bike it wil almost certainly be an improvement over the factory calibration and there are plenty to choose from.
The TTS requires you to lug around a laptop to capture data for tuning or other analysis.
The TTS requires you to lug around a laptop to capture data for tuning or other analysis.
That factory calibration will be priceless when you need to return to dealer for service. The SEPST marks your ECM as have been race tuned, as soon as the dealer sees this, no more WARRANTEE, ask me how I know. The SEPST has 2 Calibrations that would be close to my setup, The TTS has several more than that which would work for baseline. Your absolutely right about having to lug around a laptop, but the laptop will record much more than a 15 minute run. I own both and am not knocking either one, just think the TTS is more versatile for a beginner.
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Sounds like the dealer is playing games. I have had my bike in for warranty work and it has had the race tuner since it was new.
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From: Back in the Good Ole USA. South Carolina to be exact.
That factory calibration will be priceless when you need to return to dealer for service. The SEPST marks your ECM as have been race tuned, as soon as the dealer sees this, no more WARRANTEE, ask me how I know. The SEPST has 2 Calibrations that would be close to my setup, The TTS has several more than that which would work for baseline. Your absolutely right about having to lug around a laptop, but the laptop will record much more than a 15 minute run. I own both and am not knocking either one, just think the TTS is more versatile for a beginner.
The SEPST VCI is able to record close to an hours worth of data regardless of the info in the SE catalogue. I spoke to a rep at the company that makes the item. I also know this from personal experience.
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