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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 05:34 AM
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I've managed to break my left side fender strut from '80 XLS, Part # 59950-79.

Harley seems to have changed something in '81, and offered Part # 59953-81 on '82 bikes, and maybe '81 as well.

Does the apparent change render the newer versions incompatible with the earlier bikes. That is, I can find plenty '81 versions, but not the '79, so I wanna know if I can use the '81 versions on my '80 XLS.

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The 79 to 81 frames are unique - the "cafe racer" frame i have heard. The parts should be interchangeable within these 3 years. The left fender support for 79 to 81 is part number 52755-79.

The parts book for 79 to 85 does not show a part number 59953-81 or 59953-81.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by IronMick
The parts should be interchangeable within these 3 years.
I didn't ask my question well. I wanna know if I slap one from an '82 frame on my '80 frame, whethre it will fit.

There's obvioiusly a difference between the two designs, as is indicated by the Harley part nos -- but is it a difference that would prevent interchanging 'em. Maybe they just strengthened the casting so ham hands such as I won't break 'em as easily.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by IronMick
The 79 to 81 frames are unique - the "cafe racer" frame i have heard. The parts should be interchangeable within these 3 years. The left fender support for 79 to 81 is part number 52755-79.

The parts book for 79 to 85 does not show a part number 59953-81 or 59953-81.
This is what Mick meant by Cafe Racer-type frame, tail section. Only cast parts are neck and engine rear mount everything else is welded.

 

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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sepixlh
This is what Mick meant by Cafe Racer-type frame, tail section. Only cast parts are neck and engine rear mount everything else is welded.
That's very different from the frame I have.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 05:44 AM
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This Cafe Racer frame thing is an "i have heard". I do not have direct knowledgr of it; have never seen one. My 1980 does not look like that pic.
 
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That picture was from XLCR-1000 frame tail, "new frame -79 ->" should be made from tube and welded. That tail section may... be different in "normal" models. But forward from shocks upper mounting point frame should be same.

 

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Originally Posted by sepixlh
That picture was from XLCR-1000 frame tail, "new frame -79 ->" should be made from tube and welded. That tail section may... be different in "normal" models. But forward from shocks upper mounting point frame should be same.
I'm still wondering whether the fender struts are interchangable, but since the discussion has turned to one of frames, I'm still wondering whether the depicted frame is one of these 'cafe racer' frame, or something else.

How many links in an XLS chain, and am I correct in thinking that the chain is 530? O-ring chain present any clearance issues?

Here's what my frame looks like:
 

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That's the XLCR "style" frame, but the rear fender/seat mounting areas are obviously different on the non-XLCR bikes. I don't know if later struts will work on your bike, but the general design of them is very similar. Do you know anyone you could borrow one from to check fitment? I do know that the later struts are MUCH cheaper in the aftermarket.

The chain is a 530. Don't know how many links, but I'd guess somewhere around 108, give or take a couple. My shop manual says 110 for my '83, but it really took a 106 - the first chain I ever bought for it was a 110 (based on the shop manual) and I had to take a few links out. I'd think an o-ring chain would be pretty tight - I wouldn't try one on my '83, as the standard chain barely clears various items.
 
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Frame back from that shock upper mount can be done how ever you like, it just supports fender and tail light (maybe also seat). Just weld tubes that suits you application.
Yep 530 is correct chain XLH had 108 links, there is some issues with O-ring chain even with 71-76 engines, I'm not sure but it might be also same with 77->
You need to remove some material around front sprocket and sprocket cover, O-ring chain is little higher... but is much better, stronger and last longer than normal chain.
 
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