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Old May 16, 2010 | 07:10 PM
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Wizard.....
Did you get the PM I sent you?
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Old May 16, 2010 | 07:44 PM
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yes i did. so either 1 i find the door with the shaft in it. 2 find another used tranny and get someone elses head case. 3 buy a new one which is almost as much for what i paid for the bike. damn if i cant find used aint no sense into dropping more money into this thing. bike $1500 parts over $1500.
 
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Old May 16, 2010 | 07:53 PM
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yes i did. so either 1 i find the door with the shaft in it. 2 find another used tranny and get someone elses head case. 3 buy a new one which is almost as much for what i paid for the bike. damn if i cant find used aint no sense into dropping more money into this thing. bike $1500 parts over $1500.
Yes, those are the choices.
I say a new one is not a choice.
They have not been made for years so it's really not an option. Cost would be outta sight if you did find one.

So it is either find a door and continue the project or take a beating on what you bought the bike for and try to recoup some of your money by selling off the parts of the bike. It will not bring in what you paid for it but at the same time there is value in what you have.
It is likely that there are people out there needing an engine but have there own transmission which is in good shape. That is the buyer you want to find.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 02:06 PM
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Wizard, every part, either new/remanufactured or good used is available! 3000to 4000 invested is average for a top quality repaired XL and will give you years of fun in the bargain! Also there are knowledgable XL freaks who will NOT "rape" you as was mentioned, you just have to find one. Try old school custom HD shops, they abound or start taking in swap meets til you find one who will look your stuff over and advise you w/o asking for your bank account number! Be patient, take your time, this is a used bike project and I would not be suprised if whomever you got it from might have had a lot do do with the condition you found the inner works in. Tom

As for my post earlier, well I was speaking from 35+ years experience both as an amature and a Licensed Business Owner specializing in old Shovels and XL's. Trying to give "technical advise" from pictures and an inexperienced fellow on the other end either phone or puter is as you have just found out, near impossible. But there are many who feel they have that ability..hang with em and see what happens! Nuff said by me on this subject. I know when I am not welcome on a forum where "experts" with thin skin hang out. Good luck and I will ask the Site Moderator to remove me from the HD Forums registry.
 
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Old May 18, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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Another option that you might find is an after market door, I broke the door on my 1970 in about 1985. I replaced the stock one with a steel door, I don't know who made it but I also bought an aluminum door ( that I sold) fro drag specialties.
 
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Old May 18, 2010 | 06:32 PM
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this is suppose to be stuck in tranny door?
 
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Old May 18, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by wizardry68
this is suppose to be stuck in tranny door?
Yes. This rod is a press fit (at the factory) and was done with an alignment gage.
If the rod is not tight in the door, start looking for another door that has this rod tightly attached.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 08:56 PM
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I've never experienced a press fit on this shaft, slip fit on every transmission I've worked on. In the Clymer manual under Transmission Disassembly it tells you to remove the shift fork shaft then remove the shift fork from third gear. Do you have a manual you are working from?
 
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Old May 18, 2010 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Neil74
I've never experienced a press fit on this shaft, slip fit on every transmission I've worked on. In the Clymer manual under Transmission Disassembly it tells you to remove the shift fork shaft then remove the shift fork from third gear. Do you have a manual you are working from?
H-mmm, interesting......
To bad old man Clymer did not work at the Harley factory. He could have set them straight.

Poor Harley is so misinformed that they state in their factory service manual that.......
"the fork shaft is installed as a press fit at the factory using an alignment gage to set it at right angles to the door plate.
They further state that this rod should never be removed from the door unless absolutely necessary. In the event that it has to be removed, care must be taken to press it back into place with great care to have the rod perpendicular to the door."

That's what the factory says. So I guess they could have really used having old Clymer around back in those days when the manual was written.
And knowing the history of Mr Floyd Clymer, he would have jumped at the chance to set them straight.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 11:19 PM
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Wouldn't surprise me at all Pinion I'll have to hunt me up a for real factory manual an see what else is different in it.
 
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