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Old Jul 8, 2011 | 03:02 PM
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Hey I was planing on taking the last ride before i was going to trade my 73 xl for a 61 xlch and didnt get to far. Seems the clutch dosnt what to disengage with lever in. Just my good ole irish luck. I did an oil change at the start of summer and only put on about 25 miles. I put 50W in primary.
Any ideas as to why this just happened out of no where? Runs fine till i put it in first, tries to move forward then I cant shift at all, unless not running.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2011 | 04:36 PM
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First i would check the oil level in the primary.

IMO 50W is too heavy for the primary. I would install HD Formula+ and see if it makes a difference.

Can you actually ride it in first? If so i would ride it around the block a few times and see if it frees up.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2011 | 05:06 PM
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Thanks mick ill check level and maybe change it out to hd+ and then see how it works. if oil level was too high would that make that happen?
 
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Old Jul 8, 2011 | 05:34 PM
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or the lock-nut on your clutch adjustment has worked loose and your out of adjustment.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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Thanks scott. Ill see if I can tighten it up. Guess It knew it was on the choping block.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2011 | 09:32 PM
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Ok guys I drained about a cup err.. 2 cups out of the primary weep hole, guess i overfilled by a long shot. Put a few spins on clutch cable locknut and and now all seems good. didnt ride yet but can shift with out it trying to drive through garage door. Thanks again, by the way while messing with the primary seep hole i noticed it is striped. I have read you guys talking about helicoils, how do i go about making one and what is it?
 
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Old Jul 8, 2011 | 11:31 PM
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I would tap a slightly larger thread and get an allen head screw to fit; don't helicoil in this case. (take off the cover before you drill it)

also, in the future only do one change at a time when solving an issue. In your clutch because you made two changes; one might solve the problem and the other may make it worse. If you only change one at a time, you will know if it is better or not and then can choose to try something else.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by oil leak
... Put a few spins on clutch cable locknut and ... the primary seep hole i noticed it is striped. I have read you guys talking about helicoils, ...
Originally Posted by scottfisher
I would tap a slightly larger thread and get an allen head screw to fit; don't helicoil in this case. ...
Hey Scott - why not a helicoil?

By the weep hole do you mean this primary oil level hole? ...



What do you mean by Put a few spins on clutch cable locknut? There is a correct clutch adjustment procedure in the factory service manual. It has 5 or 6 steps, some with multiple parts. It is essential to do the complete process. It cannot be adjusted at the clutch cable only like on other bikes.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 08:28 AM
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Hey Scott - why not a helicoil?

By the weep hole do you mean this primary oil level hole? ...


Because the OP doesn't know what it is or how to do it. Drilling a large hole for the helicoil and installing creates more room for error and leaks if it is not done correctly...then you are left with a primary cover with a large hole in it...

Tapping in a thread that is one size up will not significantly impact the oil level, leaves room for error if that thread gets stripped in the future, is still visually appealing (no obvious visible damage...like an insert) and is only one step...(keep the original screw so you can reuse it in the future)

What do you mean by Put a few spins on clutch cable locknut?

This wasn't quite what I had in mind either....hope it works out ok....


 
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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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> Ok guys I drained about a cup err.. 2 cups out of the primary weep hole, guess i overfilled by a long shot.

Maybe... There are 2 possibilities here.

1 - you overfilled
2 - it's coming from the engine wet sumping, either though the crankshaft seal or a bad oil transfer valve. Wet sumping is a distinct possibility, especially since you've only ridden it 25 miles since the oil change.
 
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