Milwaukee Eight (M8) 2017 and up M8 Air and Liquid Cooled discussion
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

M8 problems

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 16, 2019 | 06:19 AM
  #1861  
Sturgis Junkie's Avatar
Sturgis Junkie
Intermediate
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 38
Likes: 14
From: The wrong side of SD
Default Overheating

I also have a 2017 Ultra Limited that developed overheating problems at about 38,000 miles. I have stock heads on top of 124 ci cylinders so was out of any type of warranty. I determined the water pump had seized so replaced along with the temp sender that is at the bottom of the left radiator. I don't think the temp sender was bad but system was drained so figured might as well replace it. Problem solved and it was an easy fix.

The pump is very easy to remove, maybe 10 min. Then remove the cover from pump and try to turn the impeller with your fingers. If you can't it is stuck. You can also plug it back into the bike and force it to run by (if I remember correctly) turning to ignition to on and pressing both turn signal switches for several seconds.

Hope this helps.
 
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2019 | 06:51 AM
  #1862  
flht19's Avatar
flht19
Stage III
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
From: Delaware
Default sumped

I own 2019 M8 purchased 8/24/19 825miles lumped 4 quarts into crankcase. Bike has been at dealer for two weeks, I hope I'm not in the road as some the other post I've read with back and forth to dealer with this sumping issue. my bike is completely stock no MODS. not going to do any mods until issue is fixed.has anyone heard any good news with the oil pump from s&s ? thanks for feed back.
 
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2019 | 08:13 AM
  #1863  
Keithhu's Avatar
Keithhu
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 17,148
Likes: 6,171
From: SE Michigan
Default

Originally Posted by flht19
I own 2019 M8 purchased 8/24/19 825miles lumped 4 quarts into crankcase. Bike has been at dealer for two weeks, I hope I'm not in the road as some the other post I've read with back and forth to dealer with this sumping issue. my bike is completely stock no MODS. not going to do any mods until issue is fixed.has anyone heard any good news with the oil pump from s&s ? thanks for feed back.
I wouldnt go aftermarket while its still in warranty. Harley has a new oil pump that they've been putting in '19 bikes manufactured after 5/22/19 and all 2020 bikes, the dealer will almost certainly recommend this, and it would be foolish at this point to disregard that guidance
 
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2019 | 09:52 AM
  #1864  
QNman's Avatar
QNman
Seasoned HDF Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 6,863
Likes: 3,727
From: St. Charles, MO
Default

Originally Posted by Last chance
I purchased a 2017 ultra limited with the liquid cooled M8 in November of 2016. Had Harley do a stage 3 immediately . The bike has been a pleasure to ride, not a trailer queen. NY to Sturgis, NY to Key West, NY to Daytona a few times, NY to New Orleans just to name a few. Now at almost 19,000 miles the bike is experiencing serious overheating problems and the dealer (Harley Davidson of Charlotte NC) in conjunction with Tech services in Milwaukee cant figure it out. Bike has been in for this issue 5 times in the last Month and a half. Antifreeze leaking into the combustion chamber due to hairline cracks in the cylinder walls, that was what HD told me, manufacturing defect. They cracked the rear cylinder open (literally with a sledge hammer) and replaced. Two days later the wife and I went out for an evening ride and within 15 miles or so the bike overheated. temperature and engine light on. They have the bike now, stay tuned.........
Originally Posted by skid_pimp
I was under the impression that only the heads were liquid cooled on the Rushmores and M8s. If so how does any damage, hairline cracks or not, to the cylinder walls make this failure?
That is correct.

Cracks in the cylinder walls don't lead to antifreeze in the combustion chamber - cracks in the heads will.

Cracks in the cylinder walls could be caused by the overheating itself. I'd be looking at the water pump condition, as well as the AFR set by whoever did your tuning (I assume the dealership did this). One of two things is happening - either improper heating, or running too lean/hot. Maybe both.
 
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2019 | 08:03 AM
  #1865  
GTS32907's Avatar
GTS32907
Stage IV
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 4
Likes: 1
From: Florida
Default

Anyone have a problem withe the 2020 M8 FLTRK having a high idle when it's hot? I was at Destination Daytona yesterday and the bike would idle at 1800 to 2000 rpm's when it was hot. If I slightly rolled the throttle forward it would idle correctly. The dealer said he had a few others doing the same thing but if it didn't have a dummy light on there would be no code to find out what was the cause. I started it this morning while it was cold and everything is back to normal.
 
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2019 | 08:54 AM
  #1866  
Keithhu's Avatar
Keithhu
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 17,148
Likes: 6,171
From: SE Michigan
Default

Originally Posted by GTS32907
Anyone have a problem withe the 2020 M8 FLTRK having a high idle when it's hot? I was at Destination Daytona yesterday and the bike would idle at 1800 to 2000 rpm's when it was hot. If I slightly rolled the throttle forward it would idle correctly. The dealer said he had a few others doing the same thing but if it didn't have a dummy light on there would be no code to find out what was the cause. I started it this morning while it was cold and everything is back to normal.
No issues here.
 
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2019 | 03:31 PM
  #1867  
Ddieselsmoke's Avatar
Ddieselsmoke
Tourer
Photoriffic
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 443
Likes: 77
From: Xenia OH
Default

I know the 2018's will rev up to 1000, when in eitms mode but 2000?
Just to make sure there is no update about the rpm increase, what does the owner's manual say about that?
 
Reply
Old Oct 29, 2019 | 04:52 PM
  #1868  
drick81's Avatar
drick81
Novice
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 24
Likes: 3
From: Surry VA
Default Clacking noise at hot idle restart

2019 Road glide 114. Bike will make a series of clacking noises not uniform. Sounds pretty bad. Very noticeable. Only when restarted after fully warmed up. And only after sitting 5-10 minutes. Wont do it if turned off and started right back up immediately. This will keep going on until back on the road then it goes away until turning the engine off again. Its done it ever since it was brand new first day home from the dealer. It sounds like metal on metal, like something is vibrating and contacting something else. But i cant find anything hitting. Sound is right at the engine ip around the heads. It has gotten worse since having the stage 2 torque cam done. Any ideas appreciated.
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Oct 29, 2019 | 05:23 PM
  #1869  
Keithhu's Avatar
Keithhu
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 17,148
Likes: 6,171
From: SE Michigan
Default

Originally Posted by drick81
2019 Road glide 114. Bike will make a series of clacking noises not uniform. Sounds pretty bad. Very noticeable. Only when restarted after fully warmed up. And only after sitting 5-10 minutes. Wont do it if turned off and started right back up immediately. This will keep going on until back on the road then it goes away until turning the engine off again. Its done it ever since it was brand new first day home from the dealer. It sounds like metal on metal, like something is vibrating and contacting something else. But i cant find anything hitting. Sound is right at the engine ip around the heads. It has gotten worse since having the stage 2 torque cam done. Any ideas appreciated.
Yes. Take it to the dealer.
 
Reply
Old Oct 29, 2019 | 08:54 PM
  #1870  
Wizardofaus's Avatar
Wizardofaus
Road Warrior
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,451
Likes: 230
From: United States
Default

Originally Posted by drick81
2019 Road glide 114. Bike will make a series of clacking noises not uniform. Sounds pretty bad. Very noticeable. Only when restarted after fully warmed up. And only after sitting 5-10 minutes. Wont do it if turned off and started right back up immediately. This will keep going on until back on the road then it goes away until turning the engine off again. Its done it ever since it was brand new first day home from the dealer. It sounds like metal on metal, like something is vibrating and contacting something else. But i cant find anything hitting. Sound is right at the engine ip around the heads. It has gotten worse since having the stage 2 torque cam done. Any ideas appreciated.
So It made that noise from day 1, you’ve most likely got an oil filter full of swarf.

I would have taken it back to the dealership before I got it home.

Wiz 🤔
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:32 PM.

story-0
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-5
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-6
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE