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Old Nov 3, 2017 | 10:37 PM
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Do you guys think they check all bolt specs? Maybe maybe not.
they are supposed to be checking all critical fasteners..I'm sure the level of commitment to doing so varies..when i have taken our bikes in for service from time to time I go over them as best i can afterwards and always find things that need tightening..I believe that part of ownership is to be going over your bikes yourself periodically
 
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Old Nov 3, 2017 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mjwebb
they are supposed to be checking all critical fasteners..I'm sure the level of commitment to doing so varies..when i have taken our bikes in for service from time to time I go over them as best i can afterwards and always find things that need tightening..I believe that part of ownership is to be going over your bikes yourself periodically
My 2017 Touring Manual doesn't even identify "critical fasteners". I know they did in the past but it seems they have done away with that designator.

The fasteners that are torque-checked as part of the 1,000 mile service are:
- The handlebar switch housing screws
- The clutch and brake master cylinder clamp screws
- Front and rear axle nuts
- Exhaust system fasteners
That's it!

I suspect that they did away with the "critical fastener" designation because many of those fasteners, while they are important structural members, aren't coming loose in a million years and they have enough of a track record as such.

I agree with you that part of bike ownership is taking some personal accountability for the integrity of your machine. On the other hand, I can understand that some owners simply do not possess the required skills and therefore rely on their service professional, and rightfully so.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2017 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 2black1s
My 2017 Touring Manual doesn't even identify "critical fasteners". I know they did in the past but it seems they have done away with that designator.

The fasteners that are torque-checked as part of the 1,000 mile service are:
- The handlebar switch housing screws
- The clutch and brake master cylinder clamp screws
- Front and rear axle nuts
- Exhaust system fasteners
That's it!

I suspect that they did away with the "critical fastener" designation because many of those fasteners, while they are important structural members, aren't coming loose in a million years and they have enough of a track record as such.

I agree with you that part of bike ownership is taking some personal accountability for the integrity of your machine. On the other hand, I can understand that some owners simply do not possess the required skills and therefore rely on their service professional, and rightfully so.
good observations..what I do is just perform basic service/maintenance/inspection etc. between the 10K services for the most part on our bikes and let the dealerships do the major scheduled services..I don't care to be adjusting drive belts, steering head bearings, flushing hydraulic fluids and such so the tag team approach is a good compromise and saves some $$$..I don't think the newer bikes require all that much maintenance to be honest and as long as they are getting serviced and maintained regularly is good enough..you are right tho that there are plenty of folks that rely on the dealerships to service their bikes every 5000 miles and expect everything to be gone thru properly, and for ~$400 they deserve to be
 
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 02:58 PM
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You guys have some good dealers by you. I have never heard of them "throwing in" the 1 K service near Philly. Also it is over $500 near me. And ALL they do is drop the old fluids and change the filter. I would never give those thieves that kind of money.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JimmyBarber1
Is there anything that says the warranty will be voided if they don't do the first service?
ABSOLUTELY NOT!! Do it yourself!!
 
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 03:14 PM
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The more I read about what other dealers offer, the more I hate the one by me.

* Veterans discount -NOPE
* Hog Discount - NOPE
* Throwing in the first oil change - NOPE
* Overcharging for everything - YEP

I only go to them for jobs that are beyond my mechanical abilities. I wish I had a good indy shop by me.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 03:49 PM
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Interesting! I am 78 years old and have been servicing my assorted brands of motorcycles since 1965 and in all those years using a service manual in most cases, I have never had a problem. If you read the manual and follow the service schedule and procedures, I believe the average owner is more than qualified to do his/her own service. I would hate too think of the cost over all those years just for oil changes and checking for loose bolts. Not to be negative, but, I also have second hand tales of friends who have taken their bikes in for service and experienced bad stories of poor workmanship. i.e., loose oil bolts, oil filters, loose spark plugs, read axel bolts loose. However, in my case I enjoy the self satisfaction of doing the work myself and knowing the job was done right. Additionally, I do not find servicing a M8 any more difficult than any other Harley I have owned Go for it.
 

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Old Nov 8, 2017 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by lyork
I also do my own service, but I'll have them do the 1000 mile this week. Prices range from $280 to $400 here in Kansas City though---crazy huh?
Little pricey for an oil change, IMO, but hey, to each their own.

I've always done my own services & maint. That's the only way to know for sure that everything on the checklist is actually done, and done right the first time. But that's just me.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2017 | 09:56 PM
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Always done my own service all intervals. A little tentative about my M8 since I keep hearing of sumping and fluid transfers. Don't need a hassle if I need warranty work done. Maybe I've been lucky no warranty services needed on my last 4 Harleys only a couple of recalls that dealer did. Sitting at 800 miles so I have couple days to decide.
 
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Originally Posted by lyork
I also do my own service, but I'll have them do the 1000 mile this week. Prices range from $280 to $400 here in Kansas City though---crazy huh?
$335.00 here in Tampa, and that is me providing engine oil (they refused to use 10/40 I had brought by mistake on my 2nd jug), but then they found I had moisture on my brake fluid and the flush cost me another $163.00...and they said they put Synth3 on the transmission and primary ...? Why is that oil so stinky? I mean it smelled like burnt old oil! Tomorrow I'll change it before it boils my bike!
Needless to say; I won't be taking my bike to the dealer for my oil changes, I only trust one person when it comes to oil changes...ME!
 
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