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Old Nov 27, 2016 | 08:06 AM
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Ok I have heard this from more than a few people. They say that after a set of slip-on's break in the note changes. For a long time, I thought that was BS. Well count me as a believer now. The exhaust note CLEARLY changed note on me after a few hundred miles, the note is now deeper and louder. Now I wonder if its a physical change in the slip-on's themselves or if the ECU in the bike has somehow modified to account for the slightly higher exhaust put out. I did not tune the bike with just the slip-on's. My thoughts are that the ECU adapted. Any thoughts?
 
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I had rineharts on my road king and they definitely changed note - In my case I didn't notice a really drastic difference until they had been on for nearly 1000 miles.

On that bike I did use a tuner (a fp3).

IMO the exhaust note change was probably due to physical differences in the baffles in the slip ons rather than anything the ECU was doing (or changing). To me the metal in a muffler almost HAS to change considering all the heat up and cool down cycles it goes thru, and it wouldn't take huge dimensional changes to change the tone of the exhaust.
 
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Your theory is very sound. with the fp3, your ECU was adjusted immediately so it certainly has to do with the thermodynamic properties of the pipe material itself. I was considering an update to the air intake and an FP3. any louder and I would be on the verge of too loud for me.

Question, on the fp3, is there a standard tune for the rineharts or do you have to use a similar vance and hines pipe since the fp3 is made by vance and hines?
 
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Old Nov 27, 2016 | 08:44 AM
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Your theory is very sound. with the fp3, your ECU was adjusted immediately so it certainly has to do with the thermodynamic properties of the pipe material itself. I was considering an update to the air intake and an FP3. any louder and I would be on the verge of too loud for me.

Question, on the fp3, is there a standard tune for the rineharts or do you have to use a similar vance and hines pipe since the fp3 is made by vance and hines?
I bought the FP3 and do not have any V&H header or slip ons. Contacted V&H and they told me which map similar to the V&H products to use and it works very well. Then I did the auto tune and a big difference. Works very well IMO
 
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Old Nov 27, 2016 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jclax01
Ok I have heard this from more than a few people. They say that after a set of slip-on's break in the note changes. For a long time, I thought that was BS. Well count me as a believer now. The exhaust note CLEARLY changed note on me after a few hundred miles, the note is now deeper and louder. Now I wonder if its a physical change in the slip-on's themselves or if the ECU in the bike has somehow modified to account for the slightly higher exhaust put out. I did not tune the bike with just the slip-on's. My thoughts are that the ECU adapted. Any thoughts?
I know my street cannons changed note and did get louder after about 700 miles. I measured the decibel level new and after 700 miles and the decibel level went up by 8%. Same software, same location for measurement. 8% does not sound like much but it is noticeable. I was told the fiberglass inside the pipe gets "packed down" over time which is why it gets louder and deeper. I have no clue if that info is correct or not. I am a V&H guy on multiple bikes but I will likely stay with my street cannons on my M8, sound great to me. But not too loud at idle.
 
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I know my street cannons changed note and did get louder after about 700 miles. I measured the decibel level new and after 700 miles and the decibel level went up by 8%. Same software, same location for measurement. 8% does not sound like much but it is noticeable. I was told the fiberglass inside the pipe gets "packed down" over time which is why it gets louder and deeper. I have no clue if that info is correct or not. I am a V&H guy on multiple bikes but I will likely stay with my street cannons on my M8, sound great to me. But not too loud at idle.
What you have said has proved true for about every slip on I have used, the Vance and Hines Hi-Outputs, the Rinheart, the Jackpot pro tour and the Fullsac cores I run now.
 
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Originally Posted by jclax01
Your theory is very sound. with the fp3, your ECU was adjusted immediately so it certainly has to do with the thermodynamic properties of the pipe material itself. I was considering an update to the air intake and an FP3. any louder and I would be on the verge of too loud for me.

Question, on the fp3, is there a standard tune for the rineharts or do you have to use a similar vance and hines pipe since the fp3 is made by vance and hines?
My fp3 was on my twin cam road king but there wasn't a specific map for the rineharts, I had to pick a suitable map that came closest to my setup. Tech support at vance and hines was great help in pointing me to the right map to use.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2016 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jclax01
Your theory is very sound. with the fp3, your ECU was adjusted immediately so it certainly has to do with the thermodynamic properties of the pipe material itself. I was considering an update to the air intake and an FP3. any louder and I would be on the verge of too loud for me.

Question, on the fp3, is there a standard tune for the rineharts or do you have to use a similar vance and hines pipe since the fp3 is made by vance and hines?
I am running rinehart slip ons with FP-3 .. I am using the stock inhanced map . Runs GREAT . At this time there are only 5 maps available for 2017 touring. I tried 1 other map but the first one really works well
 
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