Speed Limiter?
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I was just playin'....... but I see what you're sayin'.
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Absolutely agree. No different than any car or truck manufactured for use in the U.S. Most people remember 95-97 MPH speed limited 1/2 and 3/4T American trucks and SUVs from the 80s and 90s, all equipped with junka$$ OEM tires. And I am not referring to the Ford Explorer/OEM Firestone fiasco, completely separate issue.
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Whilst it is quite usual for the partially informed to confuse the known rev limiter,with the invisible speed limiter subject,you should now enlighten yourself of the difference!
Woha,did you realize you were watching a 142mph Dynojet test? 6th@5500?
Followed by a 5th gear hit on the 5500 rev limiter,running at 129 mph, wow!
Don't understand the need to raise the rev limiter on the test bike or anything but a Stage 111 498 cam or equivalent,which generate maximum HP at 6000 rpm?
Very interested to get the same conversion as the Dynojet Dyno bike.?
Woha,did you realize you were watching a 142mph Dynojet test? 6th@5500?
Followed by a 5th gear hit on the 5500 rev limiter,running at 129 mph, wow!
Don't understand the need to raise the rev limiter on the test bike or anything but a Stage 111 498 cam or equivalent,which generate maximum HP at 6000 rpm?
Very interested to get the same conversion as the Dynojet Dyno bike.?
Glad to know you know more than the people who tune these bikes for a living.
Brandon, the guy that tunes my bikes does not make or design tuners or any other parts. Yet he says all the 17's and newer hit the limiter when tuning.
MoCo has been installing vehicle speed limiters for a number of years. It is not always the exact same on every model but typically the following holds true.
2014 - 2016 Touring
RPM limiter is 5600 - 5900 RPM
VSS limter is 240 KPH or 149 MPH
2017 - 2018 Touring
RPM limiter is 5600 - 5900 RPM
VSS limter is 176 KPH or 110 MPH
Some models may be a little faster and some a little slower but this is where most are set by the MoCo.
2014 - 2016 Touring
RPM limiter is 5600 - 5900 RPM
VSS limter is 240 KPH or 149 MPH
2017 - 2018 Touring
RPM limiter is 5600 - 5900 RPM
VSS limter is 176 KPH or 110 MPH
Some models may be a little faster and some a little slower but this is where most are set by the MoCo.
Maybe the guy above should put his wisdom to use and design a tuner.
Last edited by FLSTFI Dave; Dec 31, 2017 at 09:34 AM.
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Yes I have had almost all the models from a1994 Fat Boy and relevant to the issue at hand a 2005 RK,2010, 2014,2016 and 2017SGS. This is not about me and why I know you don't understand the subject you are involved in! Please read the entire thread from the start. When I get some answers to the questions which have been asked,I may recant my position
I know who Steve Cole is and would not lightly go against his opinion yet I still maintain that there is no Speed limiter link to the speedometer and therefor no limiter.
At no time has there been sign of anything but a lack of enough power to push it faster.
Ask yourself why the " limiter" comes in at a lower speed on moderate up Hills?
I have seen an increase in speed in increments arter stage 1 stage 11 and stage 111 ???
The rev limiter is real and has nothing to do with the pseudo speed limiter which you confuse it with. In fact l have raised my rev limit ignition interrupter to 6250 during the remapping with The H D Super Pro Race tuner.
Really don't know why I waste my efforts on this!
I know who Steve Cole is and would not lightly go against his opinion yet I still maintain that there is no Speed limiter link to the speedometer and therefor no limiter.
At no time has there been sign of anything but a lack of enough power to push it faster.
Ask yourself why the " limiter" comes in at a lower speed on moderate up Hills?
I have seen an increase in speed in increments arter stage 1 stage 11 and stage 111 ???
The rev limiter is real and has nothing to do with the pseudo speed limiter which you confuse it with. In fact l have raised my rev limit ignition interrupter to 6250 during the remapping with The H D Super Pro Race tuner.
Really don't know why I waste my efforts on this!
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Yes I have had almost all the models from a1994 Fat Boy and relevant to the issue at hand a 2005 RK,2010, 2014,2016 and 2017SGS. This is not about me and why I know you don't understand the subject you are involved in! Please read the entire thread from the start. When I get some answers to the questions which have been asked,I may recant my position
I know who Steve Cole is and would not lightly go against his opinion yet I still maintain that there is no Speed limiter link to the speedometer and therefor no limiter.
At no time has there been sign of anything but a lack of enough power to push it faster.
Ask yourself why the " limiter" comes in at a lower speed on moderate up Hills?
I have seen an increase in speed in increments arter stage 1 stage 11 and stage 111 ???
The rev limiter is real and has nothing to do with the pseudo speed limiter which you confuse it with. In fact l have raised my rev limit ignition interrupter to 6250 during the remapping with The H D Super Pro Race tuner.
Really don't know why I waste my efforts on this!
I know who Steve Cole is and would not lightly go against his opinion yet I still maintain that there is no Speed limiter link to the speedometer and therefor no limiter.
At no time has there been sign of anything but a lack of enough power to push it faster.
Ask yourself why the " limiter" comes in at a lower speed on moderate up Hills?
I have seen an increase in speed in increments arter stage 1 stage 11 and stage 111 ???
The rev limiter is real and has nothing to do with the pseudo speed limiter which you confuse it with. In fact l have raised my rev limit ignition interrupter to 6250 during the remapping with The H D Super Pro Race tuner.
Really don't know why I waste my efforts on this!
There is in fact a speed limiter and its controlled by the ECM. Hopefully someone will include a screen shot so you'll settle down about the whole thing.
Also about 10 different threads about the subject.
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You are missing the point I don't need documents or retoric. I need to know how the ECM knows how fast you and the bike are traveling to activate the limiter?
The Healtech Speedohealer is an American product which is used by me and my Superbike friends to bypass the throttle limiter on all brands of bikes.
It's primary purpose is to correctly calibrate the speedo.It has a secondary switchable program which allows the Speedo reading to be reduced to a point below the Limiter activation for high speed runs and Dragging. It works on every brand . Switching on the fly with the Harley has no effect on the actual top speed.We have looked at every angle for a reason! The logical and irefutable conclusion is that there is no limiter,no matter how many people it upsets.In my book they are just looking for a reason why Harley's are so under powered? Direct and plausable answers please.
The Healtech Speedohealer is an American product which is used by me and my Superbike friends to bypass the throttle limiter on all brands of bikes.
It's primary purpose is to correctly calibrate the speedo.It has a secondary switchable program which allows the Speedo reading to be reduced to a point below the Limiter activation for high speed runs and Dragging. It works on every brand . Switching on the fly with the Harley has no effect on the actual top speed.We have looked at every angle for a reason! The logical and irefutable conclusion is that there is no limiter,no matter how many people it upsets.In my book they are just looking for a reason why Harley's are so under powered? Direct and plausable answers please.
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Yes I have had almost all the models from a1994 Fat Boy and relevant to the issue at hand a 2005 RK,2010, 2014,2016 and 2017SGS. This is not about me and why I know you don't understand the subject you are involved in! Please read the entire thread from the start. When I get some answers to the questions which have been asked,I may recant my position
I know who Steve Cole is and would not lightly go against his opinion yet I still maintain that there is no Speed limiter link to the speedometer and therefor no limiter.
At no time has there been sign of anything but a lack of enough power to push it faster.
Ask yourself why the " limiter" comes in at a lower speed on moderate up Hills?
I have seen an increase in speed in increments arter stage 1 stage 11 and stage 111 ???
The rev limiter is real and has nothing to do with the pseudo speed limiter which you confuse it with. In fact l have raised my rev limit ignition interrupter to 6250 during the remapping with The H D Super Pro Race tuner.
Really don't know why I waste my efforts on this!
I know who Steve Cole is and would not lightly go against his opinion yet I still maintain that there is no Speed limiter link to the speedometer and therefor no limiter.
At no time has there been sign of anything but a lack of enough power to push it faster.
Ask yourself why the " limiter" comes in at a lower speed on moderate up Hills?
I have seen an increase in speed in increments arter stage 1 stage 11 and stage 111 ???
The rev limiter is real and has nothing to do with the pseudo speed limiter which you confuse it with. In fact l have raised my rev limit ignition interrupter to 6250 during the remapping with The H D Super Pro Race tuner.
Really don't know why I waste my efforts on this!
The 2017 is first year of speed limiter. Both the 17 and 18 have them. I know for a fact. I have had both bike. I have also seen them hit the limiter.
I have also seen several hit the limiter on the dyno. Everybody who tunes them on a dyno knows there a limiter.
Believe what you want. I know what I have personally seen. I know what all the professionals say about it.
You are wrong. 2017 and newer have a speed limiter