Sumping again...
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From: Mandurah, West Oz
I'm not new to HD, I know they've always been a bit... fixer-uppers. (I used to have an '88 softail)
It's just that the engine... the heart... going wrong and unfixable? Nah...
Tourer
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From: Oz
Looking at the spare parts identifier for a 2018 vs 2019 short block, it appears the part numbers are the same. So I am not so sure what you actually got with your new motor, but it doesn't appear the crankcase is any different. Have you actually heard more since the 2019 are out?
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Looking at the spare parts identifier for a 2018 vs 2019 short block, it appears the part numbers are the same. So I am not so sure what you actually got with your new motor, but it doesn't appear the crankcase is any different. Have you actually heard more since the 2019 are out?
I wouldn't be surprised if all existing M8 case inventory was returned to the casting facility for recycling, if QA had any concerns that the cases on the shelf, before a specified date, were considered "out of spec" Just another hypothesis.
Last edited by Heatwave; Aug 23, 2018 at 01:58 PM.
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From: CT
Seems like they are shipping 2019 cases now for 2017 and 18 that sump. Two friends had thier back sump and got new cases. Supposed more drain holes to get the oil out of the sump faster. two week turn around forces is what they have seen. Replace everything else bearing wise, rings etc.
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Seems like they are shipping 2019 cases now for 2017 and 18 that sump. Two friends had thier back sump and got new cases. Supposed more drain holes to get the oil out of the sump faster. two week turn around forces is what they have seen. Replace everything else bearing wise, rings etc.
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When my motor sumped a second time, they tore it down replaced the entire pump, and reassembled it said it was good. I returned it the next day. Compression was way down bike ran like ****. Tech center sent a plate/pump part, no part #, in a padded envelope. They installed it, never taking off the top end just the rockers, compression was back to where it is supposed to be bike runs good as ever. Have over 700 miles on it since the repair no motor issues.
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From: The Great Midwest
When my motor sumped a second time, they tore it down replaced the entire pump, and reassembled it said it was good. I returned it the next day. Compression was way down bike ran like ****. Tech center sent a plate/pump part, no part #, in a padded envelope. They installed it, never taking off the top end just the rockers, compression was back to where it is supposed to be bike runs good as ever. Have over 700 miles on it since the repair no motor issues.
Keep us informed
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When my motor sumped a second time, they tore it down replaced the entire pump, and reassembled it said it was good. I returned it the next day. Compression was way down bike ran like ****. Tech center sent a plate/pump part, no part #, in a padded envelope. They installed it, never taking off the top end just the rockers, compression was back to where it is supposed to be bike runs good as ever. Have over 700 miles on it since the repair no motor issues.
Probably requires the newer oil pump (62400182 in my case). I'm running the as delivered pump from fall 2016. I might look into this to alleviate future issues. I hope more people report back...
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From: The Great Midwest
It's interesting for sure. Looks like it's stock on the 19s. A $27 dollar part that replaces the old rear oil pump cover with one that has a new oil seal incorporated into it.
Probably requires the newer oil pump (62400182 in my case). I'm running the as delivered pump from fall 2016. I might look into this to alleviate future issues. I hope more people report back...
Probably requires the newer oil pump (62400182 in my case). I'm running the as delivered pump from fall 2016. I might look into this to alleviate future issues. I hope more people report back...
My bike was purchased the first weekend the 2017”s were released (and I haven’t had transfer or sumping issues)
Last edited by lyork; Aug 25, 2018 at 07:34 AM.
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Those are the Twin cooled variant numbers respectively.
I would probably just buy the improved pump anyway, but would be good to know.
Last edited by lp; Aug 25, 2018 at 07:48 AM.
