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Old Sep 28, 2018 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker
When the piston size increases but the amount of fluid being pushed to activate it doesn't you get less travel on the piston with the same volume of oil at the lever, will affect clutch throw and maybe shifting depending on individual bikes, wear and existing adjustments. Same premise as changing brake calipers with bigger pistons, needs a mastercylinder change to compensate, all about volume of fluid.

Love the idea but we'll see as some feedback comes in.
Maybe because the stock hydraulic system doesn't grab until the handle is nearly fully released, this new slave cylinder might work ok with the stock master. It would do two things: move the friction zone closer to the bar with a lighter pull. Plausible?
 
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Old Sep 28, 2018 | 10:16 AM
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Over 30 years of racquetball have taken a toll and I have chronic tennis elbow and I'm left handed. I still play twice a week so no chance of it going away LOL. A lighter pull would be less painful so I am really interested in this. It's not a big deal unless sitting in traffic a lot or doing low speed drills in the friction zone - then it would be nice to have a little less resistance. Like I said a "nice to have" not a "must have"...at least not yet.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2018 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jpooch00
I guess that WOULD be a good thing for that group. I can't see how it would give full movement to fully disengage the clutch, though. Bigger piston = less movement for a given volume of fluid, doesn't it?

I expressed my concern in an email to them and this was their response:

We are aware of the piston stroke length and we have done extensive testing to insure that there is more than enough stroke to account for proper clutch engage and disengagement. All measure of have been taking with great concern when engineering our product to work in all circumstances.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2018 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Gamma742
I expressed my concern in an email to them and this was their response:

We are aware of the piston stroke length and we have done extensive testing to insure that there is more than enough stroke to account for proper clutch engage and disengagement. All measure of have been taking with great concern when engineering our product to work in all circumstances.
Sounds like they got it covered, then. Hopefully it'll help for the folks with arthritic hands etc.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2018 | 02:42 PM
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I believe you are right. The friction point would be moved closer to the hand grip.
I also believe the friction zone would be wider, similar to the way it was with the cable operated clutches.
There is more than enough extra throw with the stock slave cylinder now to disengage the clutch.
Reducing the throw would not be an issue.
The reduced effort on the lever force is an added plus.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2018 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeC7R
Isn't there a way to change the fluid dynamics so that the existing fluid could be compressed into a smaller space and still allow the full travel needed? Perhaps keeping the area inside the piston the same area but expanding the outer dimensions of the piston?
Basic physics 101 fluids do not compress.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2018 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by hbsoldier3
If you want a lighter pull on your 2014 put a 2017 master cylinder on it.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2018 | 03:58 PM
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I’m looking forward to seeing the reviews on this, my 60 year old arthritic hands let me know they ain’t happy after a long day, and can use all the help they can get - subscribed!
 
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I like the idea, wait for some feedback
 
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Old Sep 28, 2018 | 04:12 PM
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Went and visited my Indy today. Paid for my winter storage. Told them they would probably be installing this on the bike for me. Had an Aim VPC on my old bike. It was the best thing since sliced bread!
 
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