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Old May 25, 2020 | 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Mart
Why is this touring models only? I thought the only difference in build is a hydraulic clutch.
My gues it has something to do with the preload of de clutchrod and perhaps the spinning of this part in the touring setup.
 
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Old May 25, 2020 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Karkus
Well I have a 19 rgs. Noticed transfer at 5000 miles. Got the vent. Seemed to be doing good until recently. Dont know when, but it sure happened again. Checked today (05/24/20) at 14,700 miles. Transmission was damn near dry. Taking it to the dealer on Tuesday when they open.
Was the oil deflector removed when the vent was put in? I got the vent and the dealer didn’t remove the oil deflector per service bulletin instructions and it still transferred. I took it back and made them remove the deflector and all was well again.
 
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Old May 26, 2020 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dawg
Was the oil deflector removed when the vent was put in? I got the vent and the dealer didn’t remove the oil deflector per service bulletin instructions and it still transferred. I took it back and made them remove the deflector and all was well again.
this is the first thing I asked them this morning. I will update as soon as they call me back
 
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Old May 26, 2020 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mart
Why is this touring models only? I thought the only difference in build is a hydraulic clutch.
Softails have more balancer.
 
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Old May 26, 2020 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Sparkee...
Let me wrap this around my brain... Apparently the transfer of oil from the transmission to the primary is cause by a negative pressure, a vacuum build up, in the primary sucking the transmission oil into the primary. The vent releases this vacuum stopping the transfer. Now this individual claims releasing this vacuum in the primary is causing a higher pressure in the crank case to move oil to the primary? If there is an issue with engine to primary transfer wouldn't a non-vented primary make a high crankcase pressure transfer more engine oil in a primary with a negative pressure builded up?

You either didn’t read his post or didn’t understand.
The LACK of primary pressure causes the crankcase backside seal to leak.
 
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Old May 27, 2020 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ntraindavefl
You either didn’t read his post or didn’t understand.
The LACK of primary pressure causes the crankcase backside seal to leak.
The Primary has always been vented.

Originally Posted by TriGeezer
Softails have more balancer.
True, but it has nothing to do with this problem.
 

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Old May 27, 2020 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Karkus
Well I have a 19 rgs. Noticed transfer at 5000 miles. Got the vent. Seemed to be doing good until recently. Dont know when, but it sure happened again. Checked today (05/24/20) at 14,700 miles. Transmission was damn near dry. Taking it to the dealer on Tuesday when they open.
how do you know the trans was damn near dry?
 
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Old May 27, 2020 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mikes300
how do you know the trans was damn near dry?
Guessing he meant the dipstick was damn near dry? If so, that means it's only about 4oz low (28oz in the trans instead of 32oz, not quite damn near dry for the whole trans)
 
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Originally Posted by Mart
Why is this touring models only? I thought the only difference in build is a hydraulic clutch.
The difference is in the side cover design.





The cable side cover allows the oil to drain back to the transmission. It is pretty well open.



The hydraulic side cover traps oil, if get past the hole and into the actuator cavity it is very hard for it to drain back, so if there is vacuum in the primary it will get sucked across.




Opening the actuator cavity and relieving it so that oil drains back has proven to stop the transfer problem.

Originally Posted by ntraindavefl
You either didn’t read his post or didn’t understand.
The LACK of primary pressure causes the crankcase backside seal to leak.
He's saying there is now pressure in the crankcase causing engine oil to leak into the primary, whereas before there was a vacuum that caused transmission oil to be drawn into the primary. If there is engine oil being pushed into the primary the engine seal is more than likely bad and needs replacing.
 
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Old May 28, 2020 | 03:59 PM
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Well I read it differently. I realize it’s his opinion but his point right or wrong was that the primary vent tube fix is the problem, causing not enough primary pressure which in turn creates an engine seal leak. The vent is the problem. His pushrod is the best solution. His words not mine
 
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