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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Miclog
I have it parked, and haven’t yet taken it on a distance ride.
The only real concern I have is the possibility of transfer. I have read that there are a few signs, such as clunking into first gear, and will certainly pay attention to that, I did experience a harder sounding shifting, and difficulty finding neutral while it was warm.
I also believe that the vent kit is a warranty item, without waiting. Is this correct?
If you have a transfer concern, just check your transmission oil level every hundred miles or so. If the level is ok after a few checks then you lengthen the interval to a few hundred miles. In a short time, you will know if you have the issue or not and if you do to what extent.

Harley does install the vent kit under warranty, nevertheless anyone can purchase the vent kit. In fact, Harley recently started selling just the vent hose for a few bucks. If I had to do it, I'd buy just the hose as the gasket and seal that come in the kit are reusable in most cases.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 09:41 PM
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While we're on the topic of transfer... does anyone with the aux. cooling fan over the rear cylinder have a trick for checking the transmission oil level?

I was looking at it the other day, and my 2019, which had ~2,950 miles on it when I bought it (it was in the dealer's demo fleet), has the fan which seems to block access to the trans dipstick. I also think transfer would've been noticed by the dealer at some point in its year with them, so I probably don't have a transfer issue anyway.

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Old Jan 14, 2020 | 12:19 PM
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Cold oil creates sticky friction plates, especially if you have snow on the ground.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2020 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Keithhu
Yeah, not good to start the bike in the winter if you cant get it up to operating temp. I understand the temptation tho. I'd say just let it sit until you can ride it to the dealer and have them check it out. If it needs adjustment, its a warranty issue.
You guys up there in the frozen tundra live a different life. lol I never thought of issues like this......not starting your bike cause its too cold and could cause damage..

Heck the few weeks or couple months or so at most we cant ride down here, I start my bike occasionally just to hear it and remember that sound. lol
 
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Old Jan 14, 2020 | 01:10 PM
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You guys up there in the frozen tundra live a different life. lol I never thought of issues like this......not starting your bike cause its too cold and could cause damage..

Heck the few weeks or couple months or so at most we cant ride down here, I start my bike occasionally just to hear it and remember that sound. lol
It's not the cold start that hurts the motor, it's the not riding it long enough to get everything up to operating temperature.

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Old Jan 15, 2020 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Drakhen99
It's not the cold start that hurts the motor, it's the not riding it long enough to get everything up to operating temperature.

-John
Just to add...not getting up to operating temp means water condenses into the oil, turning it into a milky chocolate mixture, minus the lubricating properties...I've seen it happen...
 
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Old Jan 15, 2020 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 2black1s
To the OP (and anyone else that's starts their bike in gear on a regular basis).

Why?

Do you realize how much additional and unnecessary stress you are imparting to the starter system? Especially when cold.
No, exactly how much stress does it impart to the starter system?

Harley starters are very robust, they very seldom fail, after all they are commonly used as automobile starters.

How many Harley starter motors (`89 or later) have you seen needing replacement, for any reason (other than poor troubleshooting)?



 
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Old Jan 15, 2020 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Drakhen99
While we're on the topic of transfer... does anyone with the aux. cooling fan over the rear cylinder have a trick for checking the transmission oil level?

I was looking at it the other day, and my 2019, which had ~2,950 miles on it when I bought it (it was in the dealer's demo fleet), has the fan which seems to block access to the trans dipstick. I also think transfer would've been noticed by the dealer at some point in its year with them, so I probably don't have a transfer issue anyway.

-John
There's not enough room for a ratchet and socket or a folding Allen wrench but a "L" shaped Allen wrench works fine. I plan on cutting a little material off both ends of mine for a better fit.

I wouldn't count on the the dealer noticing the issue. In my opinion there's probably a lot of bikes out there still with the issue. Who checks their oil levels before they change it?
 
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Originally Posted by Sparkee...
There's not enough room for a ratchet and socket or a folding Allen wrench but a "L" shaped Allen wrench works fine. I plan on cutting a little material off both ends of mine for a better fit.

I wouldn't count on the the dealer noticing the issue. In my opinion there's probably a lot of bikes out there still with the issue. Who checks their oil levels before they change it?
Thanks - the "L"-shaped was gonna be my guess, but it's good to have confirmation.

I agree about dealerships not noticing, but I'm pretty hopeful that the salesman who was riding the bike the most - who ended up selling it to me - would've noticed. He seemed like the type to notice stuff like hard clunks, etc..

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Originally Posted by Dan89FLSTC
No, exactly how much stress does it impart to the starter system?

Harley starters are very robust, they very seldom fail, after all they are commonly used as automobile starters.

How many Harley starter motors (`89 or later) have you seen needing replacement, for any reason (other than poor troubleshooting)?

Interesting comments, it got me thinking....

I have modded all my bikes. The least modded bike was my '89 Heritage (EVO) with just air cleaner, exhaust, and tune... My current bagger has a 124" crate engine, and I've had several big bore or cam only builds.... I have put a lot of miles on these bikes...

In all the issues I have dealt with on my bikes, I have yet to deal with a starter problem..... I never really noticed that before...
 

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