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Old May 30, 2010 | 06:16 AM
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Alright...I've gotten alot of opinions from various sites, but to no prevail. I have a 95 Heritage Nostalgia (FLSTN) 1340 evolution with no upgrades and I'm battling starter issues. Like many others issues I've found, once every 6-10 starts I got an awful grinding noise while engaging the starter(1.4kw). Now it is a constant grinding, or even just spinning of the starter, will not pop off. The sound was obviously coming from inside the primary, so I removed the cover to inspect the gears. Inside I found a sufficient amount of metal shavings throughout, but no major damage to any of the starter clutch or pinion gear teeth. The starter clutch looks as though the pinion was just barely catching, as the teeth are very slightly slanted on one end, thus causing some of the shavings. I guess before I start erplacing parts, I'd like to hear opinions on whats going on here. Is the starter solenoid not pushing the pinion out far enough? Are there bearings missing that I didnt know existed? I was thinking of replacing the starter and clutch gear, but thought I'd check with some more experienced people before I spend $450+. Any input/opinions would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Old May 30, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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Just wanted to let you all know that I got it figured out. Thanks
 
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Old May 30, 2010 | 02:21 PM
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i have the same problem, what did you figure out? thanks for the help
 
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Old May 30, 2010 | 08:33 PM
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Hey fatboy. I had loose wires causing a poor ground. Hooked up a volt meter and followed the current to a noticeable decline. 3 wires were loose. Tightend them up and good as new.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 05:48 PM
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my starter turns over just fine, it sounds like it is just spinning and mot engaging, i think its the jack shaft but i really don’t want to pull the clutch off to check it. That seems like its the culprit.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 06:06 PM
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Don't you just love the 95 flstn? I like the shake and rattle at idle the best. Very nice bike they are for sure glad you found out what was causing the problem and it didn't cost an arm or leg too.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 07:22 PM
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Cut your starter troubleshooting time in half. Go ahead and get the manual starter button that simply bolts on over (rather in place of) the solenoid cover.This takes the handlebar switch, starter relay and associated wiring out of the circuit. If you have clutch problems...won't fix that, but it takes all the other stuff out of the loop. When you push this button, you shove the plunger against the clutch gear extending the shaft and also make direct contact with the main starter terminals. It has came in handy more than once.

Talked a buddy of mine into putting one on around 6-months ago. He called me last week and told me his would not start...I told him to "push that button stupid". He did, it cranked and I later discovered a defective starter relay. They stopped putting kick-starts on them in 1985 and pushing one off to start is is no fun when you are alone. Take every shortcut you can!
 

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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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Yeah I have a buddy that did the push button deal like 1550 said, and he couldnt be happier with it. Myself on the other hand...it makes life more interesting wondering if the scooter will fire up or not. Plus it helped me figure out another "culprit" causing problems. My spot lamps were shorting out at the same time as the starter grinding, I then was informed that spots were quite often wired into the starter relay..and sure enough, an extremely loose wire. Now it starts like a champ everytime as well as lights the road. I'd check the wiring first off Fatboy, as i doubt the jackshaft is the problem. The reason its grinding like that is from the solenoid not pushing the pinion out far enough, thus spinning after only engaging about 1/32nd of an inch on the starter clutch. It'll be a safe place to start, and a lot less time than tearing into the primary. I dont know how non-evo engines are, but the clutch doesnt need to be disassembled in order to change the jackshaft on my bike (1340 evo), should that be the problem.
Hope everything works out for you in both money and sanity as it did for me. SeeMeDo...it took me a minute to accept the shake and rattle, but I absolutely love the bike...and its issues
 
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