Leaking oil
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Unless I see more than the current seepage, I will wait and have it looked at over the winter as well. I don't want to lose my precious riding season! It is too short in NH!
I still hope to get 8 - 10k miles this year.
I still hope to get 8 - 10k miles this year.
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Almost every 110 engine has leaked on the rear cylinder, and sometimes the front too, but it typically does not show itself until you have 3-6K on the bike. Generally starts with a slight "weep" on the rear headgasket, near the exhaust flange, then shows itself further at the base of the rear cylinder with puddles of oil. Oil is migrating down the cylinder studs, pooling at the base, then coming out around the O-ring. I know some who are on their second and third set of gaskets, have had cylinders replaced, and the leak comes back after approx the same amount of mileage. All covered under warranty, but plenty of down time. HD knows of the problem, but has yet to come up with a fix after over a year of leaks. Could be the fitment of the cylinders to the cases too. Nobody knows yet.
The heat on the rear cylinder doesn't help the situation, but is not the root cause. The new gasket part number does NOT solve this issue.
Can you say Extended Warranty?
The heat on the rear cylinder doesn't help the situation, but is not the root cause. The new gasket part number does NOT solve this issue.
Can you say Extended Warranty?
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You would think that they would make the product on a C.N.C. machine! And have a check sheet to see what the tolerance is and if it fall under or over the nominal number it would have to be remachinedor scrapped! I want to know how is doing the quality control at Harley becase they should be shot I have been with out my bike for weeks now because of this sh*t. WHAT A JOKE.
I have a good feeling this wont be the last time I am going to have to deal with this SH*T !
I have a good feeling this wont be the last time I am going to have to deal with this SH*T !
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ORIGINAL: CopperCanynro
Blues...is it related in anyway to the excessive pinion runout I've been hearing about?
Blues...is it related in anyway to the excessive pinion runout I've been hearing about?
I asked about that and they said $150.00 - $200.00 to check it and if it was bad they would pay it back. But they have no reason to check it, from what they say!
F**kers, Itwould be nice preventative matinance to just check it! They said if it messes up then they will fixvia warranty. What ever. I dont have $200.00 buck right now. Thanks for listening to me vent!
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ORIGINAL: Blueslover
Almost every 110 engine has leaked on the rear cylinder, and sometimes the front too, but it typically does not show itself until you have 3-6K on the bike. Generally starts with a slight "weep" on the rear headgasket, near the exhaust flange, then shows itself further at the base of the rear cylinder with puddles of oil. Oil is migrating down the cylinder studs, pooling at the base, then coming out around the O-ring. I know some who are on their second and third set of gaskets, have had cylinders replaced, and the leak comes back after approx the same amount of mileage. All covered under warranty, but plenty of down time. HD knows of the problem, but has yet to come up with a fix after over a year of leaks. Could be the fitment of the cylinders to the cases too. Nobody knows yet.
The heat on the rear cylinder doesn't help the situation, but is not the root cause. The new gasket part number does NOT solve this issue.
Can you say Extended Warranty?
Almost every 110 engine has leaked on the rear cylinder, and sometimes the front too, but it typically does not show itself until you have 3-6K on the bike. Generally starts with a slight "weep" on the rear headgasket, near the exhaust flange, then shows itself further at the base of the rear cylinder with puddles of oil. Oil is migrating down the cylinder studs, pooling at the base, then coming out around the O-ring. I know some who are on their second and third set of gaskets, have had cylinders replaced, and the leak comes back after approx the same amount of mileage. All covered under warranty, but plenty of down time. HD knows of the problem, but has yet to come up with a fix after over a year of leaks. Could be the fitment of the cylinders to the cases too. Nobody knows yet.
The heat on the rear cylinder doesn't help the situation, but is not the root cause. The new gasket part number does NOT solve this issue.
Can you say Extended Warranty?
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ORIGINAL: madurodave
My head gasket looks good so far. I just see a slight weepage at the base of the rear cyclinder.
ORIGINAL: Blueslover
Almost every 110 engine has leaked on the rear cylinder, and sometimes the front too, but it typically does not show itself until you have 3-6K on the bike. Generally starts with a slight "weep" on the rear headgasket, near the exhaust flange, then shows itself further at the base of the rear cylinder with puddles of oil. Oil is migrating down the cylinder studs, pooling at the base, then coming out around the O-ring. I know some who are on their second and third set of gaskets, have had cylinders replaced, and the leak comes back after approx the same amount of mileage. All covered under warranty, but plenty of down time. HD knows of the problem, but has yet to come up with a fix after over a year of leaks. Could be the fitment of the cylinders to the cases too. Nobody knows yet.
The heat on the rear cylinder doesn't help the situation, but is not the root cause. The new gasket part number does NOT solve this issue.
Can you say Extended Warranty?
Almost every 110 engine has leaked on the rear cylinder, and sometimes the front too, but it typically does not show itself until you have 3-6K on the bike. Generally starts with a slight "weep" on the rear headgasket, near the exhaust flange, then shows itself further at the base of the rear cylinder with puddles of oil. Oil is migrating down the cylinder studs, pooling at the base, then coming out around the O-ring. I know some who are on their second and third set of gaskets, have had cylinders replaced, and the leak comes back after approx the same amount of mileage. All covered under warranty, but plenty of down time. HD knows of the problem, but has yet to come up with a fix after over a year of leaks. Could be the fitment of the cylinders to the cases too. Nobody knows yet.
The heat on the rear cylinder doesn't help the situation, but is not the root cause. The new gasket part number does NOT solve this issue.
Can you say Extended Warranty?
Not trying to rain on your parade, but this is something to really watch on the 110's.
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ORIGINAL: CopperCanynro
Blues...is it related in anyway to the excessive pinion runout I've been hearing about?
Blues...is it related in anyway to the excessive pinion runout I've been hearing about?
I would make them give me a loaner after the first attempt, and I would NOT let them take 3 weeks to do the job either. Whether HD will admit it or not, they know about these issues, and if you raise enough hell, they will get the parts there and the dealer can get off their butt and fix your 35K bike.
The runout problem causes other stuff, and not every bike has that problem, but instead of HD owning up and checking the bikes, they let the customer have problems first, THEN do something.
The average HD rider only puts 5K miles on a year, so they hope the warranty runs out before these problems show up.
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ORIGINAL: madurodave
My head gasket looks good so far. I just see a slight weepage at the base of the rear cyclinder.
ORIGINAL: Blueslover
Almost every 110 engine has leaked on the rear cylinder, and sometimes the front too, but it typically does not show itself until you have 3-6K on the bike. Generally starts with a slight "weep" on the rear headgasket, near the exhaust flange, then shows itself further at the base of the rear cylinder with puddles of oil. Oil is migrating down the cylinder studs, pooling at the base, then coming out around the O-ring. I know some who are on their second and third set of gaskets, have had cylinders replaced, and the leak comes back after approx the same amount of mileage. All covered under warranty, but plenty of down time. HD knows of the problem, but has yet to come up with a fix after over a year of leaks. Could be the fitment of the cylinders to the cases too. Nobody knows yet.
The heat on the rear cylinder doesn't help the situation, but is not the root cause. The new gasket part number does NOT solve this issue.
Can you say Extended Warranty?
Almost every 110 engine has leaked on the rear cylinder, and sometimes the front too, but it typically does not show itself until you have 3-6K on the bike. Generally starts with a slight "weep" on the rear headgasket, near the exhaust flange, then shows itself further at the base of the rear cylinder with puddles of oil. Oil is migrating down the cylinder studs, pooling at the base, then coming out around the O-ring. I know some who are on their second and third set of gaskets, have had cylinders replaced, and the leak comes back after approx the same amount of mileage. All covered under warranty, but plenty of down time. HD knows of the problem, but has yet to come up with a fix after over a year of leaks. Could be the fitment of the cylinders to the cases too. Nobody knows yet.
The heat on the rear cylinder doesn't help the situation, but is not the root cause. The new gasket part number does NOT solve this issue.
Can you say Extended Warranty?
That is the same exact way my leak started!
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ORIGINAL: Blueslover
That slight weepage is one of the first indicators. There should be NO weepage on a 32K bike, IMO. Have you taken a flashlight and looked very carefully at the head gasket right around the exhaust flange? It shows as just a damp area on most, but it's oil.
Not trying to rain on your parade, but this is something to really watch on the 110's.
ORIGINAL: madurodave
My head gasket looks good so far. I just see a slight weepage at the base of the rear cyclinder.
ORIGINAL: Blueslover
Almost every 110 engine has leaked on the rear cylinder, and sometimes the front too, but it typically does not show itself until you have 3-6K on the bike. Generally starts with a slight "weep" on the rear headgasket, near the exhaust flange, then shows itself further at the base of the rear cylinder with puddles of oil. Oil is migrating down the cylinder studs, pooling at the base, then coming out around the O-ring. I know some who are on their second and third set of gaskets, have had cylinders replaced, and the leak comes back after approx the same amount of mileage. All covered under warranty, but plenty of down time. HD knows of the problem, but has yet to come up with a fix after over a year of leaks. Could be the fitment of the cylinders to the cases too. Nobody knows yet.
The heat on the rear cylinder doesn't help the situation, but is not the root cause. The new gasket part number does NOT solve this issue.
Can you say Extended Warranty?
Almost every 110 engine has leaked on the rear cylinder, and sometimes the front too, but it typically does not show itself until you have 3-6K on the bike. Generally starts with a slight "weep" on the rear headgasket, near the exhaust flange, then shows itself further at the base of the rear cylinder with puddles of oil. Oil is migrating down the cylinder studs, pooling at the base, then coming out around the O-ring. I know some who are on their second and third set of gaskets, have had cylinders replaced, and the leak comes back after approx the same amount of mileage. All covered under warranty, but plenty of down time. HD knows of the problem, but has yet to come up with a fix after over a year of leaks. Could be the fitment of the cylinders to the cases too. Nobody knows yet.
The heat on the rear cylinder doesn't help the situation, but is not the root cause. The new gasket part number does NOT solve this issue.
Can you say Extended Warranty?
Not trying to rain on your parade, but this is something to really watch on the 110's.