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Old Mar 11, 2017 | 12:24 PM
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those pictures were not up when i see this

its the dome on the piston not letting it lift off - guess
 
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Old Mar 11, 2017 | 12:48 PM
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Kinda figured you couldn't see the pictures. I was able to open the link he posted with the pictures before they appeared in the thread. I guess a domed piston could do it. It really wouldn't take much. I'm guessing that all the head bolts are dropping down far enough to clear. It does look like a head bolt is sitting on the acorn nut at the cylinder base.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2017 | 01:26 PM
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Went over to my bike and tried to wiggle it off one more, Its not the frame thats in the way, its the piston in the up position thats holding it in!!!
 
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Old Mar 11, 2017 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by unluckyluke
Went over to my bike and tried to wiggle it off one more, Its not the frame thats in the way, its the piston in the up position thats holding it in!!!
May be a silly question but at this point in this adventure have you put a pipe wrench on the motor output shaft leaving the compensator sleeve on so you don't damage the shaft and tried to turn the engine over with everything disconnected and open ? If it won't then quit wasting time and just pull the entire engine it's coming out anyway.

Been following this thread but didn't want to chime in you've got enough cooks seasoning the stew as it is.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2017 | 03:15 PM
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Suppose it's oil related?
Oil pump fail?
Relief spring fail/break/dislodge?
Oil level depleted?
Pickup path cavitation?
Debris at oil pump?
Cylinder walls scored?

OP~ did this happen when the engine was at full operating temperature?
Or, overheated?
Plug looks ok. Maybe a little dark which would indicate a rich condition. A "rich" condition is likely a cooler running condition. (As opposed to a "lean" condition.)
 
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Old Mar 11, 2017 | 05:08 PM
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he had just serviced it GUESSing he used the hose connection at the oil pump and did not purge it when he added oil [ it was air bound would be a guess as to what has happened
 
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Old Mar 12, 2017 | 08:11 AM
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*UPDATE - dont know but digging deeper as we speak... no i didnt change the oil before i rode it, oil tank was half full! Speaking of how do I purge it for when i do change my oil? SEE PROGRESS PICS BELOW AS I TAKE OFF PART FOR PART!!!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/152682.../shares/QjDGsw
 
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Old Mar 12, 2017 | 08:58 AM
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UPDATE - i got the rear head off YaY with motor still in!!! Probly by using alitttle more force that i shoulda and scratched some stuff but it was tight see pix... but I WAS WRONG ABOUT THE PISTON BEING UP , that was just the lip of the jug.

Pistons down like the other one, not exact same postions but close, looks the same as the other just the scratches on top are from me trying to push it down with a screwdriver...

I ONLY KNOW, I THOUGHT IT WAS UP BUT IM NOT SURE ANYMORE, if its down from me pushing on it i DID NOT feel it go down!

NOW WHAT?



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Old Mar 12, 2017 | 10:12 AM
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TRIED TO TURN THE ENGINE OVER AGAIN at the compensator nut, IT WILL NOT TURN, i didnt use full strength but with alittle bit of force on a long ratchet handle, how easy should it be to turn?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2017 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by unluckyluke
TRIED TO TURN THE ENGINE OVER AGAIN at the compensator nut, IT WILL NOT TURN, i didnt use full strength but with alittle bit of force on a long ratchet handle, how easy should it be to turn?
Should spin with very little effort. Time to split the cases..... Have you opened up the cam chest yet? your problem could lye in there....
 
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